(April 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote:ALTER2EGO -to- STIMBO:(April 29, 2012 at 2:50 am)Alter2Ego Wrote: Big Bang theory is simply expansion of space. It cannot explain what caused thousands of planets to appear, each with their own gravitational pull that keeps them within their individual orbit so that the planets do not crash into each other.
Thousands, you say? Try millions upon millions upon millions. There may be hundreds of thousands in our Galaxy alone, based on estimates from the sample of almost a thousand exoplanets already confirmed to exist. But you're right; the Big Bang doesn't even try to explain how planets form. Similarly, as egg timer won't give you the date - is the egg timer useless? What does form planets, however, is localised concentration of gravity caused when a dense molecular cloud clumps together to form a protostar. Once the embryo star has accumulated enough matter to initiate nuclear fusion, the resulting ignition blows away most of the lighter elements in the cloud in the star's immediate vicinity. What remains is mostly rocky or metallic particles of dust, which clump together as a result of uncountable numbers of collisions. Once enough mass has accumulated, gravity takes over and the protoplanets increase in mass. Some of them may have enough gravity to trap the gas of the original cloud; Jupiter, for instance, has an unbelievably dense atmosphere formed primarily of the cloud from which the Solar System formed.
I used the words "thousands of planets" since it’s a large enough number that one can multiply that number indefinitely. But you got the point that all these planets are in harmony with each other as a result of having differing gravitational pulls. That's a perfect example of precision. And you're arguing that it happened spontaneously aka by accident--including the formation of planets. What logic are you using? Telling me "Some of them may have..." amounts to speculation, something "conceived by the human imagination," as the Encyclopedia Britannica put it.
(April 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote: As to why the planets are in precise orbits that do not crash into each other: the early Solar System (and by extension, other star systems) was a mass of collisions; many of the moons in our system were in fact destroyed by such collision, then eventually reformed due to gravity. They still bear the scars to this day. So why are the planets in such peaceful orbits today? Simple. The planets and other bodies that were not in stable orbits didn't survive. Either they spiralled into the Sun, collided with other bodies and were destroyed or merged into one, or were flung out of the system altogether.ALTER2EGO -to- STIMBO:
The beauty of this process is we can see it happening before our eyes and in various stages. All we have to do is look.
You don't know any of that. You read that from some scientific website where people in academia do what they do: speculate. This is the point that most laypersons are not willing to accept. Because a person with a Ph.D. speculates about something, that doesn't give any more weight to what he or she is saying than if an unschooled person had said the same thing because they are all guessing. They don't know.
Here you are arguing for the destruction of planets--by accident, which then supposedly recreated themselves--by accident, and did this with such precision that by some accident they ended up having stable orbits. Everything you are relying upon for this to have occurred requires deliberation--not accidents. As a reminder, Websters New Collegiate Dictionary describes an accident as follows:
"a nonessential event that happens by chance and has undesirable or unfortunate results"
