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Fine Tuning Argument
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RE: Fine Tuning Argument
(May 5, 2012 at 2:01 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I don't know if this works really. In order to say that God is "fine tuned" one would have to know probabilities data about him. Theists/deists usually think of God as eternal. God then didn't have a cause. He didn't need to fine tuned because there's no possible way in which he could not exist I guess is what I'm trying to say.

If you want to defeat the fine tuning argument, one way that might be good is by Bo Bennett in his book "The Concept." In someways his argument makes sense, but someways it doesn't so I have to think about some more, but keep it in mind.

You can make some rough probabilities by assuming all the different kinds of gods that could exist. Theists can say it all they want, but there's no reason a god had to be all-good. He could have been a sadist who loves to watch people suffer. (and actually, the current state of the world might just suggest this as the case.)
(May 5, 2012 at 2:08 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Well if God has to fine turn the universe, he is powerless as he had to stick to some rules, just like your shopping bill is constrained by money and a architect is constrained by gravity.



I just saw that video earlier today. It was excellent, although I'm not sure it works completely. Using the round peg round hole analogy, he says that god would merely have had to push a round peg through a round hole. The argument can be defeated using the same analogy, and saying god created the hole round so he could fit a round peg through it.
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Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Welsh cake - May 5, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 5, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Phil - May 5, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Darwinian - May 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm

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