Atheists are Intolerant

[Abishalom]

You miss the point of the post.

The point is that millions (yes millions) of people have died due to christianity, because people refused to believe. They don't necessarily have to be atheist. They could be Jew, Muslim, agnostic whatever. Doesn't matter what label you give them. That's not the point.

The point is that christianity has oppressed others from doing what they want for hundreds of years. And you complain now that secularists simply want religion and normal every day life seperated?

I'm sure the church killed millions of people. But like I said previously how many atheists were "martyred" by them. I think you are confusing the deeds of the Catholic church with the religion as whole. Nowhere in the bible does it teach us to do what the Catholic church did. Did you even know that the Catholic church BANNED the bible at one point in time? It's not wonder. They believed they could get away with it if nobody knew the truth. In fact they killed people attempting to translated it into English.

BUT FUCK IT. You want to go there? Let's fucking go there.
Here's a list of just a few examples of what happens in the name of christianity:

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1. In 356 Pagan practices became punishable by death under christian law. Between 315 and the 6th century thousands of pagans were slaughtered under the christian expansion of Europe.

2. Peasants of Steding (5,000 to 11,000) men, women and children were murdered because they could not afford the high taxes of their christian overlords.

3. Tens of thousands of Gaelic culled by Christian English for not having knowledge of god. 16th and 17th century.

4. Crusades. Some estimates range into 9 million deaths caused by christianity alone. Do your own research for this one, I don't think you can deny in any sense the atrocities caused by the crusades.

5. Massacre of Bezirs 1209. All inhabitants of the town slaughtered by order of Pope Innocent III. Estimated death toll, 20,000 - 70,000.

6. Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada. Estimated he burned 10,220 for heresy against christianity.

7. Burning of witches. In the witch hunting era (1484 - 1750) several hundred thousands people are burnt at the stake or hung.

8. Spanish inquisition 1568. Ordered extermination of 3 million 'rebels'.

9. Pope Pius V ordered the murder of 20,000 Huguenots and causes over 200,000 to flee their homes. 1572.

10. Slayings of the Jews. 4th and 5th centuries untold amounts of synagogues burned down by christians.

Council of Toledo 694. Jews enslaved, property seized by christians, children FORCIBLY baptized.

Right the way through the 11th century and the 17th century all manner of massacres and injustices were caused by christians unto the jews. Look them up.

11. Holocaust. Don't need to go into this one do I? Or do I have to remind you it wasn't just Jews who were slaughtered? 6 million deaths estimated.

12. Conquest of the New World. Countless atrocities caused to the natives of America under the banner of Christian expansion.

Etc fucking etc.

I got my info here: http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
Fully referenced. I just picked out the few which I could put easily into bullet point format so your puny fucking brain could perhaps better comprehend.


Now tell me that christianity has not opressed and burned and killed and all those other fucking things that picture mentioned.

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Yes I am aware that these events did in fact occur. But what did ANY of these events have to do with alleged atheistic persecution? You are trying to take known truth an stretch them to your "atheism vs Christianity" delusion. Did you really try to list the holocaust as justification for atheistic martyrdom (you can't be serious)? How many atheists do you suppose were "martyred" in these events (a percentage would be nice) in correlation to Christians believers?

Yeah I see where you're coming from. It's like when the atheist claims that atheists are less like to commit a crime. Well when you compare their proportion to the society they live in, one would expect that number to be lower...wouldn't we?

I currently have no expectations since I haven't seen any statistics or studies about it. If you're suggesting that atheists tend to be over represented when it comes to crime (eg, 5% of society X is made up of atheists, but they're responsible for 20% of the crime) then I'm fine with that being a possibility. If this is what you're asserting however, you'll need to prove it.

Oh no I wasn't saying that. I was essentially suggesting that your argument of expectations of said event occurring due to said group's proportion distribution in society could go both ways. Perhaps I should have worded it better. I was saying that atheist will claim that atheists are less likely to commit a crime. But if you examine their proportion in related to the societies they live in that is what we should expect. Is that more clear?