RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 6, 2012 at 10:47 am
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2012 at 10:49 am by Napoléon.)
(May 6, 2012 at 10:30 am)Abishalom Wrote:(May 6, 2012 at 9:59 am)Napoleon Wrote: You miss the point of the post.
The point is that millions (yes millions) of people have died due to christianity, because people refused to believe. They don't necessarily have to be atheist. They could be Jew, Muslim, agnostic whatever. Doesn't matter what label you give them. That's not the point.
The point is that christianity has oppressed others from doing what they want for hundreds of years. And you complain now that secularists simply want religion and normal every day life seperated?
I'm sure the church killed millions of people. But like I said previously how many atheists were "martyred" by them. I think you are confusing the deeds of the Catholic church with the religion as whole. Nowhere in the bible does it teach us to do what the Catholic church did. Did you even know that the Catholic church BANNED the bible at one point in time? It's not wonder. They believed they could get away with it if nobody knew the truth. In fact they killed people attempting to translated it into English.
No true scotsman fallacy. The catholic church are christians are they not?
Your point is mute.
Fact of the matter is people were killed in the name of christianity. It's also funny you say that I'm confusing the deeds of the catholic church with religion as a whole, as though that somehow takes weight away from my argument?
It is also a good point, that "religion as a whole" has been detrimental to the human race. So thanks for helping raise that.
The teachings of the bible or of christianity are of no consequence. If people will murder in its name then you cannot discount christianity itself as one of the primary causes for this.
Quote:Yes I am aware that these events did in fact occur. But how many of these people do you suppose were atheist. You are trying to take known truth an stretch them to your "atheism vs Christianity" fantasy. How many atheists were "martyred" in these events?
"How many of these people do you suppose were atheist"
AS THOUGH IT FUCKING MATTERS?
All those people I listed there died or were oppressed regardless of what fucking label you wish to put on them. It is YOU who wishes to place these such labels not me.
I am telling you in no uncertain terms, and with clear evidence to back it up, that MILLIONS of people, regardless of who they are, have died in the name of not just christianity, but religion.
Yet you are sitting there and the exception you take is whether they were atheist or not?
Are you really so fucking brain dead?