RE: There's no nicer way to say this but...
May 9, 2012 at 6:51 am
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2012 at 6:53 am by LastPoet.)
(May 9, 2012 at 6:23 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, surely there are couples who choose not to have children. But I'm sure that these form quite a minority amongst the majority of couples who choose to have children.This minority, as you say, its bigger than the number of homossexual couples.
Quote:Besides, I can tell you for a fact that it's rare that I've seen a marriage holding out for longer than 10 years without a child(I'm excluding straight couples who are physically unable to bring forth a child. These try other means to have a child, either via today's medical advancements, or by adoption, life is very hard on these people.).(bold mine)
A fact eh?
You call anecdotal stories a fact? I happen to know two couples that are married for more than 30 years without kids. Where is your argument now?
Quote: A child is like a glue, it forces people to handle their problems in marriage through means of dialogue, for the sake of the child. Wheras a marriage without a child is like a marriage for the sole purpose of sharing property. It holds no real relevance to society, although it still is socially sanctified, as being between a man and a woman.
Are you serious? Are you saying that 2 people that don't get along, should stick to a failing marriage just because of the kids? Naivete doesn't suit you well. 'Sanctified'? How saint is a home where father and mother just don't get along? (usually it ends up involving domestic violence) Is that any good to the child or to your vaunted society?
Quote:Well, that is what all fathers hope for, don't they. Have you ever met a father who said "Whoa, I hope that my child turns out to be gay!"?
By your accord, 99% of all fathers in the world are bigots and tyrants, who make their children suffer.
I think fathers and mothers should love their children for what they are, not for what they want them to be. If I had a kid, my only wish for them is that they come healthy and respectfull towards others.
Oh, and 99% of statistics are made on the spot.
In conclusion, you have nothing but your bigotry as an argument, but you're not alone. You keep peddling that high horse you have, not noticing that you are in a deep hole with it. 'Sanctity', appeals to history, appeals to emotion. A bunch of crock shit for all that matters to a rational person.