RE: There's no nicer way to say this but...
May 10, 2012 at 6:38 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2012 at 6:40 pm by Reforged.)
(May 10, 2012 at 6:23 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, countries are as a matter of fact, the people. Without the people, the country would not exist. Without the country, the people would be subject to others.
Free will, human rights, peace, love, yes, these sound nice. I'm not against these either. But none of these are complete without the customs and traditions that provide as the basis of these. Without our customs and traditions, our culture, who would we be?
Our people are a fiercely independent people. However, we have our limits within society. This requires us to protect the institution of marriage for the sake of the future of the society. I feel rather proud that such stuff has not been able to surface in my country. I can feel at least secure and at ease when I go out on the street.
Don't get me wrong. I also respect their right to pursue whatever they want.
However this doesn't mean that I respect whatever they aim to do.
But once again, it's rather irrelevant as we still live on the saner half of the world. No offense.
Your part is slowly sliding into madness.
Moving away from what is relevant to society, to what is irrelevant to society is a sign of madness to me. In our part of the world, this is not even an issue. But obviously people do actually vote for people on their stance on gay marriage. This spells lunacy to me, nothing else.
Countries are bits of land governed by those rich or corrupt enough to of gotten into power. Its people usually have greatly varied opinions but I believe I speak the majority of England when I say that we don't care if someone wants to have fun time with the anus of another man as long as it consensual. We also don't really care if they marry. However, the bigoted (and mostly religious) minority kicks up so much fuss the governments avoid the issue at all costs.
And you are wrong, those virtues I listed are virtues by themselves. Traditions and customs are simply nice sentiments, nothing more. If the consequences of keeping a sentiment is impeding someones human rights when they have done nothing wrong then it should be dropped, no questions asked.
I find the suggestion that one half of the world could be saner than the other to be a purile statement and a vulgar generlization.
I am rather taken aback by it especially considering we just established your people used to kill people for drinking coffee and that you live on the same side as Japan, China, Korea and Saudi Arabia. Although it could be argued that the West is prone to a more concealed kind of madness with a better PR campaign it would be a gross error to declare either side "the sane" one.
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