Quote:Countries are bits of land governed by those rich or corrupt enough to of gotten into power.Well, those are politicians. Countries are above politicians.
Even with those people dead, the country and it's people are still there.
Quote:Its people usually have greatly varied opinions but I believe I speak the majority of England when I say that we don't care if someone wants to have fun time with the anus of another man as long as it consensual.Well, neither do we, but I think I speak for the majority of the lands of Turan when I say that we care deeply about public decency, and would like such acts to remain where they are. Behind curtains, where they belong.
And we do not want people that define themselves on their performing of these acts (i.e. the gay community) to publicize themselves and flaunt public decency.
If they were an ethnic minority that preached seperatism, or a religious group that called for the destruction of our national monuments, they surely would receive a lot more tolerance than a minority that defines itself by it's sexuality? We do not want such depravity on our streets. Granting them the privilage of marrying would archive just that.
Quote:We also don't really care if they marry.I think you should, if there certainly is such a demand.
Quote:However, the bigoted (and mostly religious) minority kicks up so much fuss the governments avoid the issue at all costs.If this is such a big issue, maybe you should take it to a public referandum. How about that. Democracy at it's finest.
Quote: Traditions and customs are simply nice sentiments, nothing more. If the consequences of keeping a sentiment is impeding someones human rights when they have done nothing wrong then it should be dropped, no questions asked.Traditions and customs are on which societies are built upon. And as I said, marrige is a privilage, not a "right". It's a privilage for people who can actually create a normal family that are in accordance with customs and traditions.
It doesn't really matter if what they do is wrong. Obviously, people who engage in incestious relationships believe that they have done nothing wrong. I guess you should grant them the same acceptance as the gays.
Quote:I find the suggestion that one half of the world could be saner than the other to be a purile statement and a vulgar generlization.I believe that the excess you swim in has driven you to look for things that are rather trivial in today's world. But the harsh necessities of life will one day, hit you hard, if you continue at this pace, destroying the pillars that keep your society up one by one.
Marriage, and the institution of family, one of them.
Quote:I am rather taken aback by it especially considering we just established your people used to kill people for drinking coffee and that you live on the same side as Japan, China, Korea and Saudi Arabia. Although it could be argued that the West is prone to a more concealed kind of madness with a better PR campaign it would be a gross error to declare either side "the sane" one.Yes, but you obviously have not read my post, and you have no real historical knowledge on why such a law was enacted. Besides, I've already said that drinking coffee was not the offense, going to coffee houses was the crime.
Your madness is there, out in the open. You're just trying to inflict us with the same madness, that's all.
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