RE: There's no nicer way to say this but...
May 11, 2012 at 6:30 am
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2012 at 6:32 am by Reforged.)
(May 10, 2012 at 7:25 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, those are politicians. Countries are above politicians.And there will always be other corrupt asshats to take their places claiming they have the peoples interests at heart.
Even with those people dead, the country and it's people are still there.
Quote:Well, neither do we, but I think I speak for the majority of the lands of Turan when I say that we care deeply about public decency, and would like such acts to remain where they are. Behind curtains, where they belong.
And we do not want people that define themselves on their performing of these acts (i.e. the gay community) to publicize themselves and flaunt public decency.
Ok, not sure how marriage works over there but over here its not a free licence to screw in public. I say this because that must be how you think it works based on your comments about "flaunting" and "public decency". So, with this in mind; whos it really hurting?
Quote:I think you should, if there certainly is such a demand.Again, who is it really hurting?
Quote:If this is such a big issue, maybe you should take it to a public referandum. How about that. Democracy at it's finest.Let me explain how government works. Politicans want our votes, if an issue is considered controversial or important they avoid it so they don't lose votes. We give them money for this service. Thats it. There have been many marches, this alone shows the want.
Quote: Traditions and customs are on which societies are built upon. And as I said, marrige is a privilage, not a "right". It's a privilage for people who can actually create a normal family that are in accordance with customs and traditions.Don't compare them to incest, thats just insulting. Those types of relationships can create genetic defects in offspring, also fucking your own sister just isn't nice considering you come from the same family. The traditions and customs your country pursues and unwillingness to break with them has left your country in an "interesting" position. I, personally, don't intend to get married when I find the woman I love. I find it a strange concept as it turns an otherwise harmless and fufilling relationship that could last a lifetime into a legally binding shackle. The adventure and excitement must fade very quickly. Why am I still allowed the right when there are countless people out there who want it, who fight for it but are denied it?
It doesn't really matter if what they do is wrong. Obviously, people who engage in incestious relationships believe that they have done nothing wrong. I guess you should grant them the same acceptance as the gays.
Quote:I believe that the excess you swim in has driven you to look for things that are rather trivial in today's world. But the harsh necessities of life will one day, hit you hard, if you continue at this pace, destroying the pillars that keep your society up one by one.Oh right? Talk me through how this would happen.
Marriage, and the institution of family, one of them.
Quote:Yes, but you obviously have not read my post, and you have no real historical knowledge on why such a law was enacted. Besides, I've already said that drinking coffee was not the offense, going to coffee houses was the crime.
Your madness is there, out in the open. You're just trying to inflict us with the same madness, that's all.
To be fair, I'm not the most informed on Turkish history I could be but enough to know its extremely bloody and certainly not the guiding light of the world.
Ok, let me rephrase that. You guys *killed* people for staying in coffee houses... and you're "the sane ones".
Also, found an interesting Turkish law:
"All drivers must carry a hygienic body bag suitable for carrying a body up to 18st 12lbs (120 kilos). Failure to do so will result in a fine and possible a 6 month jail sentence."
... wtf.
Oh and lets not forget a history of censorship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Turkey
Its not even as though your countries intolerance extends only toward gays:
http://undhimmi.com/2011/06/13/turkish-c...tolerance/
And you are going to sit there with a straight face and tell us we should be more like your country? Is that whats going on here? You want to hear what our "insanity" gives us? A country that has working plumbing and tap water thats sanitary enough to *drink.* You really want to argue whos behind here? Really?
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.