Somebody said this to me

[cdabamsworth]

Can't you/they Google??

I did. I'm not very knowledgeable about such matters but it didn't take me long to find a few rebuttals. Here's my response:

Thanks for your points and for accepting a discussion of these matters. I will go through them in the order in which you raised them.

Your main logical argument appears to be that if evolution can be disproven, then the world is 6000 years old, created by God and all Biblical events are true. Of course, this is a big logical fallacy. Even if we had absolutely no idea how we could get here, how long we've been here or what the universe consists of, the next best logical thing would be to do evidence-based research, not consult a library of books written in a highly superstitious era thousands of years before most modern common knowledge. Let's continue with the points.

Amino acids (which are the building blocks of polypeptides, proteins etc) are very different biologically to carbons. The Great Flood story was about water, not hydrochloric acid, and there's no point bringing up that story anyway as it is not substantiated with evidence.

I'll quote a site for the meteors:

"For over a year, WISE took an infra-red survey of the entire sky and asteroid-hunting portion of the mission, called NEOWISE, cataloged 157,000 members – discovering an additional 33,000 new ones. By utilizing the more accurate infra-red data, the team examined 1,056 members of the Baptistina family and discovered its break-up was closer to 80 million years ago – less than half the time previously suggested. By better knowing their size and reflectivity, researchers are able to calculate how long it would take for Baptistina members to reach their current position."
As for continental drift, you don't mean evolutionists, you mean geologists. Funnily enough, they're separate fields of science. Anyway, if you wish to disprove that and its rate as well, I suggest you start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics

You may also enjoy reading this site about coral reefs: http://www.coral.org/resources/about_cor...l_overview

As there's so much to say about the forms of dating and so on, I'll have to direct you to another link, for that: https://www.dmr.nd.gov/ndgs/Newsletter/n...insitu.pdf

There's no evidence for a Great Flood, but if you want to go with that story, when we're talking about climate in relation to dendrochronology we're really talking about seasonal variation. I'd have a good look at dendrochrnology; a young earth creationist I conversed with discarded the young earth concept when they did a bit of research on dendrochronology.

Light has relativistic mass, aka energy which can be transformed into mass. It can be affected by gravity because gravity curves space-time. Since light always goes in a straight line relative to space-time, if it encounters a curvature in space-time it will continue going straight but since space-time is curved, "straight" will be curved as well.

Talkorigins refutes your claim about erosion: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CD/CD501.html
The Bible's flood story also indicates that it lasted a hundred and fifty days (according to Young's literal translation, NIV and the Kings James version, the three that I checked).

You appear unsure of how fission track dating works. I suggest you research it to some degree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fission_track_dating

You're going to have to be more specific on geomagnetic reversals. Specifically some empirical evidence which shows that element to be wrong would be helpful.

Geneticists show that the Y-chromosome didn't start coming about 6000-10000 years ago, which is the point of the research. It's all very well saying "that wouldn't be true if it weren't true", but until you can disprove the evidence, I'd find that hard to rationalize.

Anyway, that doesn't cover the evidence for evolution - here we've only covered come of the evidence against a recent creation.

Your comment about lack of DNA in fossils is way too vague; you'll need to be more specific for me to understand the point you're making. Backing it up with some kind of evidence or logic would also be useful to me.
Your point about the length of the prehistoric day is completely irrelevant, because the Earth doesn't appear to have always moved at 24 hour, 365 days (and it doesn't do that perfectly now - that's why we have leap years and all sorts of other additions of time added to keep us vaguely on track). The evidence shows it was likely 400 days of 22 hours each, so you're simply saying "It wouldn't be true if it weren't true" again.

It's saying that if you believe young earth creationism, there would have to be no permafrost at the END of the flood, because all the permafrost present BEFORE the flood would have to have been melted DURING the flood. Of course this is in reality not the case.

Your point about the 2nd law of thermodynamics has also been refuted: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CF/CF001.html

Nate at FindingTruth has provided a series of articles highlighting Biblical contradictions, which would suggest the Bible is not inerrant as you have suggested:

Part 1: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...roduction/
Part 2: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...-examples/
Part 3: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...-examples/
Part 4: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...g-the-cud/
Part 5: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...-of-egypt/
Part 6: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...genealogy/
Part 7: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...t-7-judas/
Part 8: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...ucifixion/
Part 9: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...urrection/
Part 10: http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2011/0...onclusion/

My final comment is that if you would like ways to incorporate theistic belief with acceptance of current knowledge, you could try this site, which was helpful for somebody I know who went from being a young earth creationist to an old earth creationist after a conversation I held with them: http://www.reasons.org/

Thank you again for your willingness to converse about such matters. Too often, people are scared of discussion and as such do not grow in knowledge. I hope through this discussion both of us can further our understanding.