(May 12, 2012 at 9:53 am)Freethinker~ Wrote: Yes, an item of clothing that covers your face.Why? This clearly isn't an issue when we are dealing with crash helmets, skiing goggles, etc. Quit pretending this is about concealing your face because it simply isn't. It's about islamophobia.
People can dress how they want, but when it's something that covers your face, it's a different issue.
Quote:I don't see any flaw in my argument, i do however see the flaw in your reply.Yet you don't ever point out the flaw in my reply.
Quote:What i'm saying is that it just makes it so much harder for people to identify someone who has something covering their face.Yes, but criminals have been covering their faces for years. This isn't a new thing. Why have you suddenly decided that this is a problem? Why have you focused your entire argument on burkas? Your inconsistency betrays your inherent islamophobia.
Quote:I'm not saying ban the burqa so it can be easier to catch criminals, i'm saying it's better to ban the burqa, as a matter of fact, all things covering your face, so that we can identify people alot easier, and in some cases identify them at all.I don't want to be identified sometimes; nor do a lot of people. We have a basic right to privacy that allows us to do this, but in other cases there are more personal reasons. For example, some people are badly burned and wear masks to cover up their scars; would you deny their right to do this? How far would you take this "ban all things covering your face" anyway? Would beards be banned too? What about long hair, dark glasses, etc?
Quote:If everyone covered their faces, then no doubt there would be alot of killings without catching people.Bullshit. I demand you present evidence to back up this statement. Facial identification is just one aspect that can be used to trace criminals, but it is unreliable for many reasons:
1) A lot of crimes (especially killings) take place in non-public places, where cameras are absent.
2) Even with CCTV, pictures are often grainy and key facial features are left down to guesswork.
3) Lots of people have very similar facial features, meaning that because of (2), you get a load of false positives.
This is why whilst CCTV evidence is nice, as are witness descriptions, you are more likely to catch a criminal by the DNA evidence they leave behind, or by other more identifiable things (i.e. the car they are driving).