(May 12, 2012 at 10:12 am)jain.rahul Wrote: I have been given this reason by a muslim that god exists.
Number of times the word "Moon" appears in the Qur’an = 27
Time it takes the Moon to travel round the Earth (in days) = 27
Number of times the word “land” appears in the Qur’an = 13
Number of times the word “sea” appears in the Qur’an = 32
Proportion of dry land to sea covering the Earth = 13/45 = 29%
Proportion of sea to dry land on Earth = 32/45 = 71%
The star Sirius appears in the Surah called an-Najm, meaning “Star.” The stars comprising Sirius approach one another in their courses once every 49.9 years. This astronomic phenomenon is indicated in verses 49 and 9 of Surat an-Najm.
Al-Hadid is the 57th Surah of the Qur’an, and the numerical value of the words al-Hadid is also 57.
The value of the word "hadid" alone is 26, and this is also the atomic number of iron.
The word “day (yavm)" appears 365 times in the Qur’an.
It takes the Earth 365 days to orbit the Sun.
The words “man” and “woman” both appear 23 times in the Qur’an.
The 23rd chromosome is the main element that determines an individual’s gender.
Verse 19:57 of the Qur’an speaks of “raising to a high place.”
"Sputnik 1," the first unmanned satellite, was launched in 1957.
Surat an-Nahl, meaning “Bee,” is the 16th Surah.
The bee has 16 chromosomes.
This proves that Quran is the word of God.
I haven't read Quran myself to refute these arguments. Any advises?
Here we go with the some Greek influence.
http://aboutnumerology.com/history.php
Numerology was established first as a way to teach mathematics..
"Pythagoras was born is Greece around 590 BC and was one of the best known philosophers of his day. If his name sounds familiar it is likely because you were taught his theories in high school geometry class. He was a very important figure in the development of mathematics, although little is known about his true achievements."
Then came let's get the youngsters into this!
Muslim
http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/t...eginnings/
"Islam is a religion that began in the 7th century in the Arabian Peninsula. In the Arabic language, islam means "submission," which in a religious context means submission to God. A person who submits is called a muslim, which is also the word for a follower of the religion of Islam. Western writers in the past have sometimes referred to Islam as "Mohammedism." This word can be offensive to many Muslims, because it insinuates the worship of the prophet Muhammad as a deity, which is not a component of Islam the way the worship of Christ is a component of Christianity. "
Let's add the Bandwagon Fallacy into this.
Irrelevant Appeals
In a nutshell:
http://www.logicalfallacies.info/relevance/appeals/
"Irrelevant Appeals
Explanation
Irrelevant appeals attempt to sway the listener with information that, though persuasive, is irrelevant to the matter at hand. There are many different types of irrelevant appeal, many different ways of influencing what people think without using evidence. Each is a different type of fallacy of relevance.
Examples
For example, an appeal to authority seeks to persuade by citing what someone else, a perceived authority, thinks on the subject, as if that resolves the question. The degree of support that such an appeal lends to a claim varies depending on the particular authority in question, the relevance of their expertise to the claim, and other factors, but in all cases is limited.
An appeal to consequences seeks to persuade by getting the listener to consider either the attractiveness of a belief, or the unattractiveness of the alternatives. We should form beliefs, however, not on the basis of what we would like to be true, but on the basis of what the evidence supports.
An appeal to pity, which can be very effective, persuades using emotion—specifically, sympathy—rather than reason.
These are just some of the common irrelevant appeals."
a believer will try anything that hasn't been tried before, and fall right into a fallacy not only of logic. But of again making up something that sounds good.
"Religion is comparable to Childhood neurosis" Sigmond Freud
"If one wishes to form a true estimate of the full grandeur of religion, one must keep in mind what it undertakes to do for men. It gives them information about the source and origin of the universe, it assures them of protection and final happiness amid the changing vicissitudes of life, and it guides their thoughts and motions by means of precepts which are backed by the whole force of its authority."
SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis
"Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires."
SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis
"Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck." George Carlin
"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." Elizabeth Cady Stanton - American Suffragist (1815-1902)
"Who loves kitty" Robin Williams live on Broadway DVD
"You cannot petition the lord with prayer" Jim Morrison The Soft Parade.
"If one wishes to form a true estimate of the full grandeur of religion, one must keep in mind what it undertakes to do for men. It gives them information about the source and origin of the universe, it assures them of protection and final happiness amid the changing vicissitudes of life, and it guides their thoughts and motions by means of precepts which are backed by the whole force of its authority."
SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis
"Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires."
SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis
"Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck." George Carlin
"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." Elizabeth Cady Stanton - American Suffragist (1815-1902)
"Who loves kitty" Robin Williams live on Broadway DVD
"You cannot petition the lord with prayer" Jim Morrison The Soft Parade.