(August 27, 2009 at 6:23 pm)Saerules Wrote: I agree with Kyu on this matter. There is never an excuse to be inhumane to other animals... even if you will eventually be eating them, or skinning them... they are alive now... and they should be treated like kings for that time they live.
I don't know about Kings but they should be treated humanely and I don't mind eating less meat and paying more for it.
(August 27, 2009 at 6:23 pm)Saerules Wrote: We in fact do not need meat from animals (except in some rare circumstances), and our world would be better fed on a mostly-vegan diet (less starvation). I don't think i could handle not having some things though (Cheese for pizza for instance)... but that isn't killing (or as far as i'm aware, hurting) anyone (except by osteoporoses and a few other things, which with moderation you don't get anyway).
And there I have to disagree ... humans are buiolt (have evolved) to be omnivorous and our biological systems to require meat because it provides us with a number of things that we cannot get easily from vegetable sources. Yes you possibly could use supplements but it would be expensive to treat the world that way (and that's what we're talking about) and a number of high-profile legal cases have shown that human health (especially that of children) is not adequately supported by a vegan diet.
(August 27, 2009 at 6:23 pm)Saerules Wrote: However, why even kill other animals for food or skinning... and not give them proper burials when they die... when we don't eat the usable materials of dead humans (esp. ones in their prime)... and we give most of them proper burials. Seems hypocritical to me... because all of the important parts about why not torture and kill apply to humans just as so to other mammals, many reptiles, and whatnot.
Er ... you want to give animals human like burials? Fuck that!
Kyu
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