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Banning the Burqa?
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RE: Banning the Burqa?
(May 14, 2012 at 4:34 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(May 13, 2012 at 10:58 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Sorry Tiberius Not scared of Islam/ Judaism or Christianity......but the wearing of Motorcycle Helmets, Balaclavas, Hoodies (yes fucking hoodies jackets) and sunglasses are banned in government public places and shops/ service stations...Don't even THINK you can get into a bank let alone approach the desk with one of these "items of clothing" unless of course you are wearing a full burqa with niqab then that's ok.
That may be your own personal justification, but as I noted before, this guy wants to ban them everywhere.

Everywhere? NOT MY PERSONAL justifications Tibby...it is LAW here. Or just in places of commerce? And just what is this persons "version" of a "burqa"? As I have stated...Full face coverings are not acceptable in places of commerce or Government organisations and the fact that a police officer asks you to remove your FULL FACE COVERING is not something that should bow to a select few based on 'religious reasons'

(May 14, 2012 at 4:34 am)Tiberius Wrote: We don't ban helmets everywhere; in fact, in some places it is illegal *not* to wear one.

Hair splitting Tiberius....
Again we ARE talking about places of commerce. And what are you trying to say?? Helmets are part of the standard acceptable and lwful PPE equipment for motocycle riding...what value of PPE does a bit of fabric give?


(May 14, 2012 at 4:34 am)Tiberius Wrote: Still, the question of whether helmets, balaclavas, and burkas should be banned needs addressing. I'm personally against it, for the simple reason that it doesn't actually do anything. Banning people from wearing a burka in a bank is like banning people from taking a gun into a bank. If you do that, then the only people who will ignore the ban are criminals, and they were the people who the law was aimed at. Banning something which criminals use to commit crimes ensures that only criminals will have it. It does absolutely nothing. It is a waste of a law.

Tell that to the commercial banking staff who have been threatened by the wearing of such clothing Tiberius.

(May 14, 2012 at 4:34 am)Tiberius Wrote:
Kichi Wrote:Actually you will be asked (politely) to remove you face covering here in Australia. You want to advertise Sheridan Sheeting material that's fine ...cover your face and you are a criminal.
Which is a ridiculous conclusion to make. By all means, if someone comes into a bank with a face covering, take caution. Have security on alert (as if they should ever not be), but wait until something happens before accusing the person of being a criminal. Maybe they just want to take some money out, as an honest customer. It is far more likely that they are not a criminal (criminals make up a very small percentage of the population), so stop treating them like one.

I am thinking you are naive in this regard....it is NOT ridiculous and is common practice here in Australia. Only those of "Islamic proclivities" are exempt and I find this rather unfair since I HAVE to remove my motorcycle helmet to just pay for the fuel I just put into my tank! You seem to forget Tiberius that Australia "IS a prison island" (thank you UK) and if you are wearing a covering over your face you 'must be a criminal' (thank you again UK) as those who do not wear a covering are just your average immigrant and can be disregarded as a threat.

Your face is EVERYTHING here...your identity and validity depends on you being Facially identified.
(May 14, 2012 at 5:25 am)Tiberius Wrote: Yes, when needed then of course face coverings should be removed, but customs and religions should be respected.

Why?? Mine aren't. Religion deserves NO respect...tolerance yes, respect no. I have no issue with people wanting to cover themselves from head to toe with fabric, it just makes me wonder what they are trying to hide. BUT, if full face coverings are banned for the majority then religion can go take a hike if they want to function in Australian society and there's an end to it.
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Banning the Burqa? - by Freethinker~ - May 12, 2012 at 8:41 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tobie - May 12, 2012 at 8:50 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Freethinker~ - May 12, 2012 at 8:52 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 12, 2012 at 9:08 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 12, 2012 at 9:18 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Freethinker~ - May 12, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 12, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 12, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Anomalocaris - May 14, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by frankiej - May 12, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Minimalist - May 12, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 14, 2012 at 4:24 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by downbeatplumb - May 12, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Creed of Heresy - May 12, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Minimalist - May 12, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Reforged - May 12, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Shell B - May 12, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by MysticKnight - May 12, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Annik - May 12, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 13, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 14, 2012 at 4:34 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 14, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 14, 2012 at 10:04 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 16, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 16, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 17, 2012 at 1:48 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 17, 2012 at 3:53 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 18, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 18, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 18, 2012 at 8:59 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 18, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 14, 2012 at 4:58 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 14, 2012 at 5:25 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Zen Badger - May 14, 2012 at 9:08 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 14, 2012 at 5:31 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by The Grand Nudger - May 14, 2012 at 8:50 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Annik - May 14, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 14, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Minimalist - May 17, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 17, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by frankiej - May 17, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 17, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 16, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tempus - May 16, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Aiza - May 18, 2012 at 4:35 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 19, 2012 at 12:43 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 23, 2012 at 4:23 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 23, 2012 at 4:53 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 23, 2012 at 4:59 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 23, 2012 at 6:03 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 7:18 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 23, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 23, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 23, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 23, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 23, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 23, 2012 at 2:23 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 23, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 23, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 23, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 5:49 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by NoMoreFaith - May 23, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 23, 2012 at 6:57 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 23, 2012 at 7:05 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 23, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 23, 2012 at 7:17 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 23, 2012 at 7:34 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 23, 2012 at 7:38 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 23, 2012 at 8:05 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 23, 2012 at 9:03 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by kılıç_mehmet - May 23, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by KichigaiNeko - May 23, 2012 at 9:17 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Tiberius - May 23, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Shell B - May 23, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Shell B - May 23, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Shell B - May 23, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Shell B - May 23, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Shell B - May 23, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Jinkies - May 23, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Shell B - May 23, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Shell B - May 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: Banning the Burqa? - by Annik - May 23, 2012 at 5:00 pm

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