Banning the Burqa?

[KichigaiNeko]

What do YOU define as a 'Burqa'? For me it is a Cultural piece of clothing not unlike so many "National costumes" we see here in Australia.

This: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa

Not quite Tiberius. As I have said should a lady want to wear a burqa that reveals her face...no problems, it does draw attention to her in a society that has not adopted such clothing though and makes her more of a target.

As such .... should you want to run around in silly inappropriate clothing ..well that is up to you.

I was originally glad this was your view, but then it is completely contradicted by the following: your opinion of me is not the issue here.

IF, we are talking about "Full face Coverings" then this is a different matter. The number of armed robberies utilising "burqas, hoodies, and balaclavas and masks- Full Face Coverings" has prompted the authorities here to take a VERY dim view of those who would cover themselves from head to toe (thank Hollywood et al) and to leave those in the late night "Convenience stores and service stations" very uncomfortable indeed.

No, it is not a different matter. A burqa is a full face covering; it covers the full face (or possible the face except the eyes). So do you think that people should be free to wear them or not?

You are confusing a Burqa with a Niqab ....both pieces of clothing are for different purposes and as such I have no issues with the wearing of tons of clothing in 40 degree heat if that is what the lady wishes. Should she wish to cover her head leaving her face free, this is also not an issue. We do not have many Taliban burqas here in Australia but if we did/do that their banning on the grounds of the persecution of women would be called for.

I am thinking you are a bit confused with the clothing issues here in Australia. I have tried to point out the reasoning against full face coverings in places of commerce but you seem to disregard them. A "Libertarian attitude" would also have to take into account the victims of the crimes where full face coverings have been used. "A Libertarian" would surely consider the psychological impact that has embedded itself in the collective psyche of the society that does NOT routinely wear full face coverings. Or have I misunderstood "Libertarian"? After all should it not be one law for ALL??

You seem to think that the bannings here are for no other reason that "minority bashing" and this is not the case at all. One famous case was where a driver refused to take off her/ his Niqab for an identity check with police...big kerfufful ...ended up that it is now a fineable offence NOT to reveal your face for Identity checks by Police, and you will be frog marched to the nearest Police station to have you identity checked. Person in question could originally be charged because the "driver" could not be identified. Hoodies are being banned in many convenience stores, bottle shops and service stations, just as motorcycle helmets, and Balaclavas...in short, you must reveal your face for identity purposes as the majority of commercial establishments are on CCTV/ Video monitoring thanks to the small percentage of the population who see fit to steal, maim and or murder. "Islamicphobia" like Halal has no real meaning here in Australia except to make food more expensive and to add ANOTHER minority group to the collection....

Burqa

The full Afghan chadri covers the wearer's entire face except for a small region about the eyes, which is covered by a concealing net or grille.[5]
Before the Taliban took power in Afghanistan, the chadri was infrequently worn in cities. While they were in power, the Taliban treatment of women required the wearing of a chadri in public. Officially, it is not required under the present Afghan regime, but local warlords still enforce it in southern Afghanistan. Chadri use in the remainder of Afghanistan is variable and is observed to be gradually declining in Kabul. Due to political instability in these areas, women who might not otherwise be inclined to wear the chadri must do so as a matter of personal safety.

What you seem to be calling a Burqa...and yes I object to this amount of covering in places of commerce.


What I understand to be a "Burqa"

What I object to and will support the laws of this land regarding this item of recently cultural clothing...one law for ALL or no law at all. I think this is only fair.