(May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Oh, getting emotional, are we?
Now that I got you by the balls, what are you going to do?
Nah, just stating a fact. By the way, your delusions are amusing.
(May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I sincerely believe that you're nothing but a liar, you constantly lie to me, and to yourself.
As we have established, your beliefs have no bearing on reality.
(May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But it does, doesn't it? You speak their language, you live out their culture, you live in the same country they do.
Your consciousness is what is shaped by your nation, friend. You obviously are a fool if you cannot understand this. You are not a unique snowflake. Stop pretending that the world revolves around you.
Ha, shows how much you know about me. I hardly, if ever, speak my parents' native language (though I have knowledge of it), I've abandoned a lot of my culture (keeping only the parts I like) and though we live in the same country, we live in wildly different societies. Further, my countries' ideals and moral goals are not my own. Obviously, you are the fool not to have realized that not everyone is in the same miserable situation as you.
(May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But I've already given you my cause. Whether you find it rational or not, it's not going to deter me from my path. After all, you're a liar. Even if you find it rational or not, you're simply going to state otherwise until I accept. You cannot dominate me, friend. You cannot even dominate yourself.
Dominate you? I have no desire to dominate another life, especially not one as pathetic as yours. And what cause exactly is there that you have deluded yourself into thinking that you have already given?
(May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Why should they do that, really? You said that you only define yourself by the contributions you do to yourself. In that context, they should be nothing more than tools for you to use and discard. They should not have earned your regard at all, selfish one.
No, you moron, my self-worth is determined by my contributions to myself. My identity is also determined by me, but I accept contributions from others from which I may pick and choose the good parts. And I would not expect them to do it for nothing - I fully expect them to ask a price - something I have to be willing to give them. It is because I am selfish - because I value myself so highly - that I value those who have contributed to me.
(May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But you just said that inheritance is taking something that isn't yours. Taking something that isn't yours is stealing, and we know that stealing is wrong and immoral. The fact that you inherit something, means that you inherit the merit to it. That merit is passed down by generations. The merit we need is simply in our blood, friend. We need not to look any further for some merit. Earned it is by our blood bonds. If we all had to earn things the way you state it, you need to earn your right to be born in the first place. That right belongs to your ancestor. In return, you retain the rights to inherit his merit to be a continuation of them. In all means, you are nothing but their continued existence.
If so, why do nations inherit the debts of their forefathers? They have done nothing to be worthy of punishment, yet they suffer for it. You are born into the world, with all the merits, liabilities and inheritance of your ancestors!
This is the rule and order of the world. You simply speak of nonsense, you babble hin und her.
Truly, your knowledge of rights and merit is abysmal. These properties, rights and merit, belong to conscious beings. Unless you are born, you cannot have any consciousness, therefore the "right to be born" is an idiotic concept. Merit is the measure of worth of the actions of a conscious being. There is no worth without actions and therefore, no worth by the accident of birth or coincidence of blood bond. Such a concept is worse that unmerited inheritance, its unmerited worth.
The current concept of inheritance may be based on the accident of birth, but that does not mean it is moral or correct.
(May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, this is why you can go no further beyond the current materialistic form of thinking you have. This is why I hold you as an equal with an animal of similar worth.
My master is my own kin. This makes me my own "master". The other contexts in which I use this word, I also reply with loyalty, under the context of respect. For respect cannot exist without loyalty. I don't think that you respect anyone. Not even yourself.
I find it interesting to be accused of materialism by a spiritually blind and conceptually ignorant chauvinistic pig. He who determines your existence is your master and you his slave. By your own admission, it is your society - something separate and distinct from yourself - and therefore, you are lying when you say that you are your own master. Such a subhuman existence is worse than that of an animal. Atleast an animal knows when its being enslaved.
(May 17, 2012 at 7:35 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Merit is also found in ending a pointless conversation. I choose not to speak any further to anyone who is miserable.
Let the miserable drown in their misery, let the brave bask in glory and victory.
I have not damned anything and anyone besides me like this person above.
The subhuman creature such as you following and irrational and self-destructive ideology hasn't the mental capacity to judge what glory is. Wallow in your filth and delude yourself into thinking that you have not damned yourself.