RE: Banning the Burqa?
May 23, 2012 at 9:14 am
(This post was last modified: May 23, 2012 at 9:22 am by NoMoreFaith.)
(May 23, 2012 at 7:18 am)Jinkies Wrote: We should weigh people customs using logic and reason, then decide which customs are worthy of respect. If you simply respect everything, your respect is worthless.
I do not think respect means, what you think it means.
There is a difference between "admiration" respect, of which there is none, and "Due regard for the rights of others" respect. I think you are getting them confused.
It's a good job you have a crusade, it just wouldn't do to consider what these women will be subjected to if their means for presenting themselves in society according to their deeply held (and stupid) religion is removed.
I'm sure all the strict islamic women will just run around the streets in hot pants, extolling your virtues for fighting for their rights.
I'm sure none of them will be forced to live indoors, none of them will be abused purely because another man looked at THEM, and I'm sure NONE of them will be subject to violence and hatred if they refuse to comply (like in France, where violence against women in burqas has risen exponentially.. don't you think it's SUPER how this law has made people feel justified in beating up women in the street just because of what they wear).
No, its going to be hot pants, and freedom from oppression for all the women I'm sure.
The facts of the matter, like drug use, addressing the symptoms instead of the cause doesn't resolve the fundamental problem in the oppression of these women.
You also compare the choice to wear a burqa with smoking crack, and women staying with men who beat them.
Ignoring the false analogy fallacy, do you also think that jailing the users is the most effective way to solve the drug war?
Shouldn't you be restricting the supply and focusing on jailing the drug dealers? Addressing the bigger causes that leads people into drugs in the first place?
If a woman stays with her husband who beats her, would you make it illegal for her to stay with him if she chooses, or force her to leave her husband by law?
No, again.. you address the causes, you provide a sound framework for women in abusive relationships to escape, through financial, housing and security measures to give them a bedrock for making that escape.
People have this utterly back to front. Instead of banning the burqa, you simply need to ensure your legislation makes sure it is illegal to force someone to wear a burqa against their will, and a protective network to allow for an escape for abused women (just like abusive relationships).
EDIT: To simplify my point, if you were forced by your family to wear trousers, do you think they should make trousers illegal, or make it illegal for them to force you to wear them.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
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