(August 30, 2009 at 1:18 pm)Darwinian Wrote:(August 30, 2009 at 1:10 pm)I_Fight_for_Jesus_Christ Wrote: For starters how do you scientific folks prove the non-existence of God and why do you non-scientific folk do not what to beleive in him if its a wuestion of beleif for you?
We can't prove the non existence of God as you can't prove a negative. Neither are we required to as it is not us who is making any form of claim.
The one who makes the claim has the onus to provide evidence. Where's yours?
Disproof of God (as an omnipresent, omniloving, omnipotent, all-powerful, unconditionally loving, jealous, and original god) is more than easy [for a philosopher anyway]. It cannot exist in any of those forms, at least not when it is the SINGLE god christians envision it to be.
Shall i explore some of the simplest ones? Why not: All-powerful.
Can an all powerful god create a rock that is too heavy for him to lift? This is a simple sword, as if he cannot create such a rock: he is not all powerful. And if he cannot lift the rock he has created: he is not all powerful. All-powerfulness cannot exist. Not in a gardener, not in a government, and not in a god.
How about another... unconditionally loving. Actually, the bible itself disproves that your god loves unconditionally, as we can see from his favoritism of one small group of humans, to his obsession with humans alone. To love (which is the most conditional of all emotions) unconditionally, is to love a rock as much as a dog, a dog as much as a human, and that human as much as another human, and that human as much as evil itself, and that evil as much as rocks. To love everything the same amount, to love murder as much as significant others... that is unconditionally loving. And that... is impossible.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
