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God as the hidden basis to our knowledge.
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RE: God as the hidden basis to our knowledge.
(May 28, 2012 at 10:20 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Something I've been thinking about is how our knowledge of things are unified.
Our "knowledge" is not unified, we have a "centralised pool of knowledge" that may be accessed via various means (i.e. the Internet) depending on what information specifically you want to know.


Quote:When we see something beautiful, we have an opinion that is beautiful. If it's not beautiful to everyone, we at least experience beauty.
Personal subjective feelings about reality is not knowledge.


Quote:When we see something great, we also have an opinion that is great. But what is the basis to this perception?
Whatever you personally feel is great. Obviously.


Quote:Is it just a feeling that is not based on any reality? Is it without basis.
Do bears shit in the wood?


Quote:What I mean by "hidden", is that it's not really thought about, and it's only when you really think about it, you realize that God is the hidden basis behind our knowledge of everything.
I've thought about it often and experienced no such epiphany that there's a "hidden" deity. Care to elaborate?


Quote:I've seen Atheist make jokes about when people talk about God being the beauty in a sunset, the eloquence of a good poem, the love of the mother for it's child...but when people say things like that, what they mean, really is that God is the basis of the experience of beauty, honor, eloquence, goodness, holiness, greatness and glory in all these things, and this not a far of truth.
I wish I could make a joke too. I've absolutely no idea what you're blathering on about.


Quote:When we see honorable character, we see beauty and glory in that, but what is the basis of this perception?
Since you only want to address what is beautiful, what is the basis of the perception of things that are ugly then? Indulge me.


Quote:What seems to the basis of it, is that is underlying eternal reality. Why must it be eternal. I will give you a thought experiment.
Provide evidence of this underlying alternate reality please.


Quote:Imagine the Creator was neither beautiful, nor glorious, nor morally good. Is it possible then the Creator creates beauty, greatness, and moral goodness.
Yes. I've seen some damn unattractive sweaty artists create some amazing works of art in real life.

So what?

I can imagine a god looking like some of those fugly cosmic deity horrors from the Cthulhu Mythos.

So what?


Quote:But what is that eternal reality? It's of course ultimate beauty, ultimate glory, ultimate greatness.
What's the state of ultimate then?
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RE: God as the hidden basis to our knowledge. - by Welsh cake - May 29, 2012 at 5:44 am

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