(June 2, 2012 at 10:47 am)elunico13 Wrote:(June 2, 2012 at 1:10 am)libalchris Wrote: The "laws of logic" are human creations don't "exist" they're tools we've made.
So if laws of logic are human creations, could the universe have both existed and not existed at the same time before humans were around???
(June 2, 2012 at 10:06 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Being able to reason improves our chances to survive. Logic is material enough to build into computers.
Nice try. Do people physically carry their laws of logic or trip over them when they leave them lying around the house? Of course not.
Laws of logic are immaterial, universal and never change.
I'm just exposing the errors produced by your personal worldview.
Many things do not change, or are immaterial, like the laws of logic. Planck's constant, for instance. These things, however, are in no way evidence that a supernatural being created the world.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien