(June 6, 2012 at 11:14 am)elunico13 Wrote: Healings still happen and doctors can't believe it, but it's written off as something not figured out yet.
Are you talking about the placebo effect? Doctors are studying it to better understand how and why it works. We don't yet fully understand it but when we do, like all other mysteries unraveled by science, it will doubtless turn out to be something non-magical.
Quote:Besides seeing isn't believing. The Bible tells us...
Sorry, please continue.
Quote:...people doubted when they saw Jesus resurrected.
Which only serves to make the disciples (Thomas, in this case) look like two-dimensional dunces. But it has served its purpose, the story of non-belief even in the face of overwhelming evidence. It has programmed you to write off skepticism as somehow stubborn or irrational.
Quote:Plus when you all see creation you believe random events brought us to where we are now. You don't see it as a creation from the Biblical God.
Putting aside that evolution isn't random, I reject the Genesis creation myth for, among many other reasons, the order of events is completely wrong. Day is created on day 1, a sky-dome on day 2, plants on day 3, the sun and stars on day 4. It may come as a surprise to you but many stars are much older than our earth and plants didn't come along until well after our sun was born.
Quote:Jesus even said even if one was brought back from the dead they still wouldn't believe.
Ow, my head hurts from the stupid. Do you seriously believe that?
Quote: You would have to turn to God and from sin in repentance and put your faith in Christ to know what I'm talking about.I have to believe in order to understand? I must understand something first before I can be asked to believe it. Otherwise, how can I know what it is I'm to believe?
This is perhaps the dumbest argument ever put forward by a Christian, and that's saying a lot. This argument not only proposes an absurdity (outlined above) and not only rejects the proper placement of the burden of proof but it also makes normal skepticism of claims (that both you and I practice in all other areas of life) look somehow like a handicap.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
