Barney Frank & the Health Care Idiots

[Tiberius]

That is where i am referring to it being bad. And the government needs to either be a meritocracy with its populace armed according to its physically and mentally stable population... or the government needs to be involved enough (police and in some cases military) with its people that it has the power it requires to neutralize threats.

Indeed, which is why I'm a libertarian and not an anarchist. I like to think of libertarianism as "organised anarchy" in a way. People need a government to support the police force and the healthcare, all the necessary things for a society to function properly. They should stop when they are preventing people from exercising their individual liberties, and preventing people from earning as much as they want to support their family.