(June 7, 2012 at 8:59 pm)gringoperry Wrote: Stop the fucking bullshit, does the catholic church advocate the use of condoms or not? Additionally, what is the catholic church's position on whether condoms prevent or enable the spread of HIV? Those two questions are the only important ones in this whole argument. Once you've stated "your" church's position on this we'll examine the evidence and statistics - when you provide credible citations.
No, the Catholic Church does not "advocate" the use of condoms, and the Catholic Church has no position at all on the relationship between condoms and the spread of HIV.
Re: your weird "citation needed" remarks, all citations were given in
http://atheistforums.org/thread-13242-po...#pid296323
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