Scientific ACCURACIES in the Bible

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Please share those entries complete with lexicon name, author, and year.

are you asking me to scan and post the pics?

Um, no, I'm not sure why you'd think that. Just type it up.

I did and didn't find any meaning of "circumference" or "circumscribed space" that would imply a three-dimensional object such as a sphere. Please share whatever definition you found of compass that you think might imply a sphere.

Didn't look did you? Thought you'd just call my bluff?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compass

1

a: boundary, circumference <within the compass of the city walls> b: a circumscribed space <within the narrow compass of 21 pages — V. L. Parrington> c: range, scope <the compass of my voice>


2

: a curved or roundabout course <a compass of seven days' journey — 2 Kings 3:9(Authorized Version)>

Adj: forming a curve : curved <a compass timber>

I used two dictionaries and got the same basic definition as above. Still don't see anything implying 3-d shape.

You also need to show that "compass" is the correct translation over circle for "chug." You said earlier "Here in the Hebrew the word in question Literally describes a circled circumfrance [sic]." This is an assertion. You need to show why in this particular verse, it means "circled circumference" as opposed to simply "circle."

It still hasn't been shown that "circle of the earth" or "circled circumference" was suppose to be interpreted as sphere as oppose to a flat circle. Again, here are the reasons why it shouldn't be taken as "sphere"

Because Shape In This Passage Is Of Little Importance, Next To What Is Being Communicated Here!

It is of importance to us in analyzing the correctness of the Bible. Here it is describing the shape of the earth. Whether it describes it as being flat or a sphere is the matter here. If it is describing a flat earth, then you have a factual error in your holy bible. It doesn't matter how little important the shape is in the context of whatever you think is being communicated. If the shape described is wrong, then, supposing these scriptures are inspired by God, lying is taking place.

1. It says that God "sits upon the circle" and "spreads heaven like a tent to dwell in."

To sit or To Rest on something in this context Means to Control. The Circle, or to Control the Entire Circumference/compass. That is why the word for as circle or Compass is being used here. Isaiah is not communicating SHAPE, He is describing the Complete control God has over the earth.

This is why I said you can not take 1/2 of an English translation and marry it to 1/2 of a Hebrew translation. Because in the Hebrew we are talking about Authority, and in the English you have twisted the passage to mean the prophet is communicating shape.

You seem to be affirming a disjunct. You are saying that either the passage describes the shape of the earth, or it describes God's control of the earth. You then say it describes God's control so it can't be describing the shape of the earth. But these two are not mutually exclusive. I never said that the passage was meant only to describe the shape of the earth like some kind of primitive science book. I think it's doing both at the same time: it's both describing the shape of the earth and God's control over it.

"To sit or To Rest on something in this context Means to Control."

Sure it seems to, but it's using flat earth imagery in the process. The tent part of the verse is what does this because when you set a tent up, you set it up on flat ground.

And just as Mesopotamians spoke of the "circle of the sky," or "circle of heaven," Horowitz adds that they spoke in a similar fashion concerning the flat earth disk, calling it the "circle of the earth" or "circle of the lands," "circle of the four corners," "circle of the four winds," and "circle of the four (regions)." The author of the Babylonian "map of the world" even drew "the limit of the earth's surface as two concentric circles." ' And as we shall see, such phrases as "the circle of the earth" and the "circle of heaven" are just as much a part of biblical cosmology as they are Mesopotamian cosmology.

John W. Loftus. The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails (Kindle Locations 1392-1396). Kindle Edition.

Again with the the deluded man's thoughts... I have shown twice now he has taken things out of context inorder to make a point. This guy has lost his integrity, and therefore can not formally represent scripture with any degree of accuracy.

Firstly, this isn't actually Loftus writing. He was the editor of the book. Kindle app generated the reference incorrectly. The chapter this was from was written by Edward Babinski. And in this quote, he's summarizing another person's research from this book http://books.google.com/books/about/Meso...fl8BXpR0MC. Lastly, this part I quoted is the best evidence given thus far in this thread that "circle of the earth" was explicitly associated with flat earth cosmology.

3. Isaiah also described God as having "spread it [the earth] out" (Isaiah 42:5 and 44:24). The meaning of the Hebrew word for "spread" in these verses is literally "to beat, stamp, beat out, spread out": http://concordances.org/hebrew/7554.htm

so?

You don't spread, beat, or stamp something to make it a sphere. You do that to make it flat.