RE: Euthyphro dilemma asked for evolution.
June 10, 2012 at 10:02 am
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2012 at 10:03 am by The Grand Nudger.)
An opinion being subjective does not preclude that opinion from being reasoned.
I can say that it is likely that between you and I such an act would be considered wrong without invoking whether or not the act is objectively wrong, which is precisely what I did, and this is the third time I've had to explain that to you. I'm going to assume that you know better by now and are simply hell-bent on straw manning my statements.
Someone who is is honest probably avoids saying he "knows" something when he doesn't. Particularly if that something never rises above the level of a feeling or conviction (no matter how deeply held).
I can be honest with you about my feelings or convictions (which I have been) and determine that to me, torturing a child is wrong, whilst simultaneously being honest about my reasons (or lack thereof) for having such a conviction.
It doesn't? Then why are there so many different moralities and how am I to decide which is the "true" morality if nothing other than your own convictions (read: tastes) are being invoked? Your argument for morality is precisely equivalent to an argument for vanilla ice-cream at this point.
You mean people wont admit to their superstitions being nothing more than their own bullshit spread over the fabric of the cosmos...surprise surprise. You know there are some people who are militantly in love with chocolate who would tell you vanilla loving freaks that you are wrong.
Your statement here assumes that anyone has any knowledge of morality to begin with. Before you blather on about your knowledge you should be certain that you have any. You seem to have knowledge about your own convictions. You've done the same with god here, first assuming that it exists so you could blather on about your knowledge of it without demonstrating that you have any in the first place.
I can say that it is likely that between you and I such an act would be considered wrong without invoking whether or not the act is objectively wrong, which is precisely what I did, and this is the third time I've had to explain that to you. I'm going to assume that you know better by now and are simply hell-bent on straw manning my statements.
Someone who is is honest probably avoids saying he "knows" something when he doesn't. Particularly if that something never rises above the level of a feeling or conviction (no matter how deeply held).
I can be honest with you about my feelings or convictions (which I have been) and determine that to me, torturing a child is wrong, whilst simultaneously being honest about my reasons (or lack thereof) for having such a conviction.
It doesn't? Then why are there so many different moralities and how am I to decide which is the "true" morality if nothing other than your own convictions (read: tastes) are being invoked? Your argument for morality is precisely equivalent to an argument for vanilla ice-cream at this point.
You mean people wont admit to their superstitions being nothing more than their own bullshit spread over the fabric of the cosmos...surprise surprise. You know there are some people who are militantly in love with chocolate who would tell you vanilla loving freaks that you are wrong.
Your statement here assumes that anyone has any knowledge of morality to begin with. Before you blather on about your knowledge you should be certain that you have any. You seem to have knowledge about your own convictions. You've done the same with god here, first assuming that it exists so you could blather on about your knowledge of it without demonstrating that you have any in the first place.
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