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So looks like for you someday the laws of logic will change. You do know what invariant means right?

No, its not that they will change but that they may change. Try and understand the subtle distinction.

If laws of logic were determined by matter
then we would expect them to change like you stated. "So far"

No we won't. Any such expectation would require knowledge of possibility of such a change.

The universe does change and I've had to remind people on this forum that their illogical conclusions keep forgetting that important fact.

The universe changing and the fundamental nature of matter changing are two different things. Try and understand the subtle distinction.

If laws of logic were merely an extension of the physical universe, then we would have no basis for arguing that they must apply in unknown regions of the universe or in the future, since no one has experienced these things (there goes Universal laws out the door).

The basis for that argument is that we don't know of any other fundamentally different matter and all that we do know act logically. So even the "unknown" parts of the universe or the future are not completely unknown since we have a reasonable expectation of what they are made of.

Besides, there are known examples of areas of the universe (black-holes) or the past (before big-bang) that we know that laws of logic wouldn't work and we do not attempt to apply them there.

It does no good to counter that laws of logic do work in known regions and have always worked in the past. This is irrelevant to unknown regions and the future unless we already presupposed an underlying uniformity, which only the consistent Christian has a right to expect. All of this makes sense in the Christian worldview, since God is beyond time, and, thus, His thoughts are as well.

Bullshit. The only assumption of underlying uniformity comes from the fact that in most cases, we do not know of its absence and where it is absent, we do not presume it. Its your christian worldview that's senseless and illogical. To begin with, the laws of logic are applicable only in a spatio-temporal context and you Christians are always trying to cheat that one.

I'm not sure you know what you're trying to describe here.
Examples:
1) Law of excluded middle- a statement is either true or false.
2) Law of non-contradiction- Something cannot be itself and not itself at the same time in the same relationship.
3) Law of Identity- Something is what it is. Something that exists has a specifi nature

Those are some of the laws of logic. By the way, 2) and 3) are corollaries.