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[Mister Agenda]

The point was to expose your beliefs in a post.

So you were being ingenuous, deceitful, and tricky. I hate to put it this way, but thank you for exposing yourself.

Thank you for finally answering. Science only works for you because you are inconsistent with what you believe and biblical creation is true.

Science works for everyone, regardless of their philosophy or religion.

Let me point out that uniformitarianism is incorrect when it says "the past is the key to the future." If that were the case then I guess I'll never die since I never have in the past. It's ridiculous to think that way.

I can't imagine a more naive pseudo-understanding of uniformitarianism. You've got us. Scientists really think you're never going to die because you haven't died so far, rather than noting everyone so far observed has died and concluding you will, too. Not to mention that we know why you're going to die. For you to not ever die without a physical explanation would be proof that the grand age of uniformitarianism was over. It's ridiculous to think that way.

You say science establishes a "principle" of uniformity because of multiple experiments with consistent results. It DOESN'T rely on uniformity. WOW!

If not for uniformity, the experiments would not produce consistent results, thus allowing science to prove that uniformity is not so uniform. If things were different, they'd be different.

Well there isn't much confidence in that sort of reasoning since MANY things in nature change. You do agree I hope!

Everybody who is not an idiot agrees. What kind of idiot would think people might not?

You are assuming that the same natural laws and processes that operate in the universe now, have always operated in the universe in the past and apply everywhere in the universe.

It's not assumption, and by the way, modern physics entails that certain natural laws and processes operated differently in the first moments of the universe's expansion. It's almost like science follows the evidence rather than basing everything on an assumption of uniformity.

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Looks like we have a case of empiricism here.
Well if your observations were consistent in noticing uniformity that's what I would expect as a believer in biblical creation. The laws of uniformity were already pre-existent for your observations to discover them.

Ayep. It's kinda hard to observe things that don't exist yet. Good catch.

My justification for the laws of uniformity and the whole reason science works is because the biblical God consistently keeps this universe in motion. Night and day, the seasons, orbits, life cycles, etc... He is omnipresent so I would also expect uniformity throughout the entire universe and also laws of logic to apply.

That could be it. Or it could be Brahma. Or it could be the work of multitudes of spirits. Once you introduce supernatural explanations, there's no logically consistent reason to exclude any other supernatural explanation.

When I get answers like "science works because it works" that's a pretty arbitrary answer for the justification of uniformity.

More accurately: working is what makes it science.

Without justification for the law of uniformity from the evolutionist it becomes as arbitrary as a child believing in Santa Clause coming down the chimney Christmas Eve.

If the child sees Santa Clause coming down the chimney every Christmas Eve, your analogy becomes apt.

I would have to call you out on your conclusion above.
You're assuming your observations are giving you reliable information.

Not all observations give reliable information. Science is based on not assuming that the obvious is true, that's why observations must be repeatable.

Plus if empiricism is your method then you must have empirically come to that conclusion which is impossible since knowledge is not observable.

That would present an equal problem for you wouldn't it? Empiricism is unavoidable in learning anything. You couldn't even start to read the Bible without trusting that your previous reading experience produced reliable results.

If you disagree then tell me what color it is.

If you reject empiricism, tell me how you know what the Bible says.

All wisdom and knowledge is hidden in Christ.

Pity the part about supporting your assertions is still hidden to you.

No worries. If I had your worldview I'd be frustrated too.

It can be a curse to be able to recognize moronic thinking when you run into it.

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I keep getting the "it works, it works" answer.

It becomes vicious circular reasoning when you use your senses to validate your senses, your reason to validate your reason.

Viciously circular reasoning - Occurs when one attempts to infer a conclusion that is based upon a premise that ultimately contains the conclusion itself.

Or the Bible to justify belief in the Bible?