RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 13, 2012 at 11:02 pm
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2012 at 11:10 pm by amateurlyinsightful.)
(June 13, 2012 at 9:24 pm)padraic Wrote:You cannot prove that god does not exist. Even Richard Dawkins says he believes in god as much as he believes in fairies in the grass(June 13, 2012 at 8:59 pm)amateurlyinsightful Wrote: Ok, I won't self promote. Can someone argue with me please about the post
I think I have one more self promotion
Why? I don't actually care about probabilities. A probability of 1 is not proof,neither is a probability of say 1 in 100 million proof of a negative.
A claim can either be proved or it cannot. If not I am unable to accept any truth claim.
You have not yet earned the privilege of self promotion.
(June 13, 2012 at 10:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I have to disagree with you.You've only ruled out the Deist counterargument to my original argument. Thank you.
When we think of what defines reality, what constitutes it, we realize the reality is SIMPLE as opposed to complex (i'm talking about the essence of existence).
If something existed before everything else, whatever that would be, it would define existence.
That existence would be independant life. Now it would be powerful, but it would be simple. Yet it would have to be conscious to jump start the universe, and incredibly intelligent.
This existence can only be spiritual and of a transendent type. Therefore this rules out complex objects as Creator.
(June 13, 2012 at 10:30 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: I've actually written a thread similar to this one titled 'Deism for non-believers'.
With your argument, it is impossible that a 'plausible god' could be a mole or giraffe etc because those things are a part of this universe. They existed after creation, and if god is meant to be unfathomable then there's no way it would have left... his...... image... on earth..! Hmm, I just had a revelation!
I never said that the alternative to a unfathomable god has to be unfathomable, also the mole, etc could have properties, etc in it that could be unfathomable. Therefore, a mole, etc is not an image of god