(June 14, 2012 at 10:25 am)elunico13 Wrote: This goes to show that your big bang theory has no logical reason for ever causing a bigbang in the first place since laws of logic never existed prior. You just proved the fact that your beliefs aren't based on logic.
Are you high? No one ever said that the big-bang theory caused the big bang. My beliefs are base on logic and the known limits of it. If prior to the big-bang, the laws of logic are not applicable then there is no point in looking for a cause. That's logical.
(June 14, 2012 at 10:25 am)elunico13 Wrote: It would be hard to support the notion that laws of logic are a reflection or extension of the physical universe because they do not describe the physical universe (as laws of nature do). Laws of logic have to do more with the reasoning process; they describe the correct “chain of reasoning” from premises to conclusions. For example the law of non-contradiction (A and not-A cannot both be true at the same time and in the same relationship) deals with concepts—not with nature, per se. Laws of logic connect conceptual relationships, rather than describing specific conditions or processes in the physical universe
No need to get emotionally upset about these things.
Laws of logic are abstractions of how nature works. Do you know how the human mind creates those abstractions? First by observation of concretes, we create concepts corresponding to those concretes (that would be the level of laws of nature). Abstraction are the concepts created from thus we get fields like logic and mathematics. The original source of those abstractions is still the real world.
