(June 14, 2012 at 5:18 pm)whateverist Wrote:Insulting god, or picking on someone's claims I have done. But I defy anyone here to point out where I have insulted someone personally. They may have felt insulted because I picked on their beliefs, but that is not the same as insulting someone personally.(June 14, 2012 at 3:05 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What I hear from you, however, are poorly reasoned excuses to stoop to their level while attempting to hold onto the idea that you are merely trying to change their mind.
Exactly. When you try to coerce opinion by intimidation or trickery, you show the same contempt for reason and autonomy as Christianity.
Wait, Brian won't respect me unless I insult him. "Brian, you're a dick."
"That is a stupid claim", or "god is a dictator" or "fuck god" is not insulting the person. It is not my baggage if they don't know the difference between the person and what the person claims.
And as I have said in other threads here, I don't like the word "respect", not that claims by themselves deserve "respect". I VALUE that which can be proven. But claims by themselves do not deserve taboo status. Otherwise I we could all, they and we, could demand the silence of others merely because our claims got picked on. Then where does that leave society?
