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Origin of Articles
RE: Origin of Articles
(June 15, 2012 at 11:28 am)elunico13 Wrote:
(June 9, 2012 at 11:53 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: The burden of proof is on you.
The use of logic =/= a belief.

Are you not willing to continue searching for a rational justification for your faith in evolution? (A justification for Laws of logic perhaps.)

There's a logical fallacy you've just committed here (add it to your collection, you've almost acquired a full set). It's called "argumentum ad neuseum"

Here's how it works:

1. You propose an argument
2. Counter-argument is offered in response
3. You ignore counter-argument and restate original argument.
4. Repeat 2 and 3 as necessary

It's already been explained to you ad neuseum that science (evolution) isn't a faith system (and you've been asked to provide your reasons for thinking otherwise, which you've never done).

It has also been explained to you ad neuseum that "laws of logic" aren't things or forces to be explained. They are observations of how things work. No deity is necessary.

Btw, I just so happened to have clicked on an older episode of "The Atheist Experience", picked almost at random, to listen to while working on something else. Right away, the host Tracy began talking about the Argument from Ignorance and why it isn't valid reasoning. It's so fitting to this discussion and to presuppositional apologetics, I'm going to link here:

Click to 1:40





Essentially, among many other fallacies, this is "argument from ignorance".

1. There are logical constants in the universe.
2. You have to explain why these exist.
3. If you can't offer an alternative explanation, GodDidIt.
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