This argument contains many baseless assertions, such as "god is a necessary existence". Even if your premises can be shown to be true, which is doubtful, all it means is that a god which is irrelevant now created the universe. There are no attributes given to it beyond that, because there would be no basis in fact for these attributes.
What do you mean by this? Do you mean that everything exists for a reason, or that everything that is around now has to have a cause?
If you meant the first, it is another baseless assertion and is irrelevant or wrong until proven otherwise.
If you meant the second, then yes, everything around today has a cause, but we can only know about the cause for definite if there is first hand evidence that describes a cause that will always lead to the same conclusion, otherwise, there are infinite ways of reaching the same conclusion and we cannot say for definite which way happened, because no one was there to see. We can only say which is the most likely way, which is determined through rigorous testing of theories and their predictions. The best theories are often the simplest and can predict more than one event.
My point is that theories such as the big bang theory are models that if ran, can produce the same or similar results each time, and can be tested against more than one parameter. Most, if not all, ideas of god are not good theories for a few reasons. They are not particularly testable, because none describe the mechanism that the god(s) used to create the universe, so the creation myth cannot be tested. There is only dubious evidence ( that cannot be verified ) of predictions made by them, and the events they were predicting are even more dubious. Unless you can describe perfectly how a god created the universe, there is no basis to believe one did.
Quote:When it comes to finite things existing in finite numbers, one wonders indeed why it exists at all rather than not. Why such a number as opposed to another. It seems the question is asked because whatever existed is something that needs an explanation as to why it exists rather than not.
What do you mean by this? Do you mean that everything exists for a reason, or that everything that is around now has to have a cause?
If you meant the first, it is another baseless assertion and is irrelevant or wrong until proven otherwise.
If you meant the second, then yes, everything around today has a cause, but we can only know about the cause for definite if there is first hand evidence that describes a cause that will always lead to the same conclusion, otherwise, there are infinite ways of reaching the same conclusion and we cannot say for definite which way happened, because no one was there to see. We can only say which is the most likely way, which is determined through rigorous testing of theories and their predictions. The best theories are often the simplest and can predict more than one event.
My point is that theories such as the big bang theory are models that if ran, can produce the same or similar results each time, and can be tested against more than one parameter. Most, if not all, ideas of god are not good theories for a few reasons. They are not particularly testable, because none describe the mechanism that the god(s) used to create the universe, so the creation myth cannot be tested. There is only dubious evidence ( that cannot be verified ) of predictions made by them, and the events they were predicting are even more dubious. Unless you can describe perfectly how a god created the universe, there is no basis to believe one did.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
