RE: why things are rather than not...and necessary existence
June 17, 2012 at 11:40 pm
(This post was last modified: June 17, 2012 at 11:41 pm by Whateverist.)
(June 16, 2012 at 9:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Finite things are not necessary existences. They aren't such that it's impossible for them to have been otherwise. The same is not true of Ultimate Existence and Necessary existence.
Two categories whose meanings are clear enough but which you haven't shown to have any members. Most of us here think these are empty. Such an argument can't possibly get traction unless you can establish that they aren't both empty sets.
(June 16, 2012 at 9:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Now this is not hard core proof. It can always be dismissed that things don't need explanations.
But I think intuitively we know everything needs an explanation. God is his own explanation, being necessary and ultimate existence. Why he is the way he is, is because he had to be that way. But everything else is not their own explanation, and need an explanation.
Thoughts?
Lame. Why don't you see that saying God did it is very far from an explanation. All you're doing is sorting the mysterious into piles. All true explanations are natural explanations, otherwise nothing is explained .. just sorted. Unless you have a unified field theory that explains how God does what He does -how he interacts with what we know of the world from his place outside of space and time- then you've explained nothing with "goddidit".