[quote='apophenia' pid='300660' dateline='1339992320']
[quote]So, when good things come your way, it's because of God. And when bad things come along, it's a gift from God, helping you develop your strength. Wow, I like them odds. How much does the house take?[/quote]How are you in a position to judge any of these things I mentioned 'good or bad?" They happened to me and I do not think I have that right. For the things my knee jerk reaction says are bad were the best things to happen to me. and the things that were good seem to inspire lazyness and luke warm complancy. Bottom line experiences are neither good or bad. They just are. What makes them good or bad is how you deal with them.
[quote]If I'm not misreading you, you concluded that this gentleman who was "something like that" was a messenger from God,[/quote]I start saying is I don't know if he was a proper Angel or if he simply carried a message from God. Simply carring the message technically makes one an angel, but does not nessarily mean one is a spirit based being who lives with God "Angel"
[quote] and that these flashes in your mind, and words coming to present from you are a result of God, rather than simply intuitions or abilities you already have?[/quote]This is a 'new ablity' It is not something I could do before I developed a relationship with God.
[quote] It sounds to me that you believe in God, therefore anything and everything is a result of God.[/quote]Not everything for I can do things on my own as my life before christianity proves.
[quote]That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. How do you know the guy wasn't one of Satan's minions? They're certainly "something like" an angel, and it's said they can appear as an angel of light.[/quote]Because what was promised was also promised in scripture for those who ask seek and knock for the gift of the Holy Spirit.He simply was conveying which Spiritual gifts I was to receive and how they were to be used.
[quote]So we have things being interpreted as from God regardless of whether they are good or bad, and attributing things to God without any clear sign they are of God. And you wonder why we're skeptical of your thoughts about God?[/quote]I seems like your skeptical, because you are measuring or judging God by a standard in which best suits your needs.
[quote]Beyond that, the question of foretelling events. Several things need to be true. The foretelling has to be specific enough for its success to be unambiguous, it has to be sufficiently unusual that it could not be expected to occur by chance alone, it has to be something that didn't or couldn't come to pass as a consequence of believing in the foretelling (e.g. if you are told you will be successful, and therefore take chances in business, the telling is tainted by your knowledge). But probably most importantly, you have to measure the successful predictions against the failed predictions. Without knowing the full list of (potential) predictions, the hits are worth nothing. And cold readers can convince us of great powers of prediction based on reading you, and using the Barnum effect. [/quote]2/3s of them have been full filled the remaining 1/3 remain on the horizon.
[quote]I also find your posting this and then claiming "privacy" when challenged for details to be not a little disingenuous. Either you're willing to witness for God or you aren't. You say that you wrote this all down immediately afterward. Provide your original written account or go away.[/quote]tough tacos. Because these events were given to me to help me stay on my path. The only reason I am communicating them to you is so that those interested in having their own 'meeting' can know where to start. I owe you nothing more than what I can provide. For personal reasons know I can not provide any more than I have already said.
[quote](Btw, it's perfectly understandable that you would remember a face rather than a name, that's how the mind works; still, you did write it down right after.)[/quote]I have spent 15 mins here, and I read your screen name when I started but still do not remember who you are now. So Even though I wrote down what happened a few hours after, I still do not remember the man's name.
[quote]So, when good things come your way, it's because of God. And when bad things come along, it's a gift from God, helping you develop your strength. Wow, I like them odds. How much does the house take?[/quote]How are you in a position to judge any of these things I mentioned 'good or bad?" They happened to me and I do not think I have that right. For the things my knee jerk reaction says are bad were the best things to happen to me. and the things that were good seem to inspire lazyness and luke warm complancy. Bottom line experiences are neither good or bad. They just are. What makes them good or bad is how you deal with them.
[quote]If I'm not misreading you, you concluded that this gentleman who was "something like that" was a messenger from God,[/quote]I start saying is I don't know if he was a proper Angel or if he simply carried a message from God. Simply carring the message technically makes one an angel, but does not nessarily mean one is a spirit based being who lives with God "Angel"
[quote] and that these flashes in your mind, and words coming to present from you are a result of God, rather than simply intuitions or abilities you already have?[/quote]This is a 'new ablity' It is not something I could do before I developed a relationship with God.
[quote] It sounds to me that you believe in God, therefore anything and everything is a result of God.[/quote]Not everything for I can do things on my own as my life before christianity proves.
[quote]That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. How do you know the guy wasn't one of Satan's minions? They're certainly "something like" an angel, and it's said they can appear as an angel of light.[/quote]Because what was promised was also promised in scripture for those who ask seek and knock for the gift of the Holy Spirit.He simply was conveying which Spiritual gifts I was to receive and how they were to be used.
[quote]So we have things being interpreted as from God regardless of whether they are good or bad, and attributing things to God without any clear sign they are of God. And you wonder why we're skeptical of your thoughts about God?[/quote]I seems like your skeptical, because you are measuring or judging God by a standard in which best suits your needs.
[quote]Beyond that, the question of foretelling events. Several things need to be true. The foretelling has to be specific enough for its success to be unambiguous, it has to be sufficiently unusual that it could not be expected to occur by chance alone, it has to be something that didn't or couldn't come to pass as a consequence of believing in the foretelling (e.g. if you are told you will be successful, and therefore take chances in business, the telling is tainted by your knowledge). But probably most importantly, you have to measure the successful predictions against the failed predictions. Without knowing the full list of (potential) predictions, the hits are worth nothing. And cold readers can convince us of great powers of prediction based on reading you, and using the Barnum effect. [/quote]2/3s of them have been full filled the remaining 1/3 remain on the horizon.
[quote]I also find your posting this and then claiming "privacy" when challenged for details to be not a little disingenuous. Either you're willing to witness for God or you aren't. You say that you wrote this all down immediately afterward. Provide your original written account or go away.[/quote]tough tacos. Because these events were given to me to help me stay on my path. The only reason I am communicating them to you is so that those interested in having their own 'meeting' can know where to start. I owe you nothing more than what I can provide. For personal reasons know I can not provide any more than I have already said.
[quote](Btw, it's perfectly understandable that you would remember a face rather than a name, that's how the mind works; still, you did write it down right after.)[/quote]I have spent 15 mins here, and I read your screen name when I started but still do not remember who you are now. So Even though I wrote down what happened a few hours after, I still do not remember the man's name.
