RE: Messengers/Message
June 18, 2012 at 3:09 pm
(This post was last modified: June 18, 2012 at 3:22 pm by Drich.)
(June 18, 2012 at 12:50 am)cato123 Wrote:(June 17, 2012 at 9:38 pm)Drich Wrote: No God called some of them to great humility. For He must break those deeply whom He intends to use greatly. God was there for them. They were not there for God.
Bull..Fucking..Shit! How fucking stupid/gullible do you have to be to believe what you said? Abject stupidity might just be the dark energy that physicists stay awake all night looking for.
Are you suggesting that the ten year old boy that took a cock in the ass from Sandusky was being 'broken' for humility's sake, in order to serve a higher purpose? Was the ten year old not there for god?
Maybe, maybe not it depends on the person and whether or not he is willing to use siad experience to the glory of God or if he coloapses in on himself. It depends on the person and what he or she will do with what has happened. I was younger when it started happening to me. I shut down for a while, and did not seek to be the person my father wanted me to be, which triggered a whole host of other disasterous childhood memories. Again the events in of themselves are meaningless until the supposed victim decides how to manage and process what happened.
Granted it is not a childhood that you would plan for your son or daughter, but understand and accept that this version of childhood is no less valid. To say someone is damaged or broken just because someone did have to endure something most did not, is foolishness. The trial should not be the deciding factor on how a person is viewed. It how they managed the event and what they have done with the experience.
This soceity places far too much importance on living with in a very tight set of prameters, and those outside of those living conditions, are left outside as soceity does not know what to do with them. The reality is, those who 'experience' things outside of the norm have the Potential to offer more than those who seek to maintain the status quoe.
This means to me, if it were up to me to choose whether or not I had to relive my childhood given those who I have been able to help (thus far and not counting the people I have yet to encounter) as the result of the trauma I was made to manage on my own, I would do it again so I could help the people I have been able to help.
(June 18, 2012 at 9:04 am)Manowar Wrote: I don't pity you but I really think you are fooling yourself and actually am sad that as a adult you appear so guillable.
Those dreams you have about what God is telling you are just dreams. You are going to think what you like and i can't change your mind so........
Manowar
one drean, one instance, one happenstance.. yes I would agree. What would happen if you experienced this every day for the last 20 or so years? Gulliable yes.. now ask why. I believe because I have yet (after 20 years) been lead astray. So if God says go I go, no questions.
I was told to "go" here. For more than a few of you it has changed things.
(June 18, 2012 at 9:39 am)jackman Wrote:(June 17, 2012 at 9:38 pm)Drich Wrote: No God called some of them to great humility. For He must break those deeply whom He intends to use greatly. God was there for them. They were not there for God.
wow. hey, i won't knock you for feeling what helps you sleep at night, but this kind of thinking is something i can't even fathom. following something which must break you, just so you agree to follow what they say, is just distant to me.
This is written in the Lord's prayer "Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.." It's not a new concept. For it is written all over the bible. I am not disputing that this concept is foreign to someone who has grown up in the west. because soceity teaches the oppsite. we have fought wars to have this right, so to activly seek the Authority of God to take over your life is no doubt a strange thing.
(June 18, 2012 at 9:50 am)Cinjin Wrote:(June 18, 2012 at 9:39 am)jackman Wrote: wow. hey, i won't knock you for feeling what helps you sleep at night, but this kind of thinking is something i can't even fathom. following something which must break you, just so you agree to follow what they say, is just distant to me.
They have to justify the unexplainable and often horrible random things that happen in a person's life. That's how they do it.
Their god is the king of kings alright ... As most gods are assholes, their god is king of the assholes .... The Asshole King, if you will.
Can you imagine wanting to love, fear and serve something that you know had it in mind to break you?!?
No wonder these stupid bastards are so terrified.
This is an accurate judgement if you only look at the circumstance, and not the whole of the persons life. If my story began and ended with trageity then i would probably have made the same judgement. That not being the case, I have to make a judgement from behind all that I have been given. to which i can only say God is Good.
(June 18, 2012 at 10:35 am)Tempus Wrote:(June 17, 2012 at 9:38 pm)Drich Wrote: For He must break those deeply whom He intends to use greatly.
Couldn't an omnipotent god just create people great to begin with? In fact, instead of having a plan for humanity it seems like he's capable of creating the universe as he wanted right away.
Create yes. Maintain, no. Why? Free will corupts what God has made perfect. Now if we take said free will and give it back to God then His power is made evident in our weakness. Leaving not great people, but Great acts of God committed through His servants.
