Fox Hunting

[Autumnlicious]

I see a lot of platitudes, but no practical solutions. You still have yet to identify a method of effective pest control that is objectively better than the prior.

We can consider a few:
- Poison :: leaves residue and is a persistent threat to other creatures
- Sterile insect technique :: only works for insects
- application of birth control chemicals :: same issue like poison, caveat is that we'll not know what the bioaccumulation is
- ...?

In any case, short of delivering fatal blunt force trauma or blood loss, we're not terribly good at killing them critters.

Life doesn't like to die.

In any case, emotion emotion emotion.

You don't even have an action plan for dealing with a beached whale!

Given the choice between letting it suffer for hours under it's own crushing inevitable wait while you fetch the veternarian and then fret over the choice of neurotoxin or truck in sufficient loads of sedatives to stop it's heart, and quickly detonating the zone around it's heart, who is more humane?

Is it really humane to, given the current scenario above (until things change and there is a record/pattern established of beached whales being efficiently and quickly euthanized), force the whale to endure hours of suffering?

Methinks your definition of "humane" actually means "less bloody".

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Also, I thought it was abolition and threats that drove pit bull fighting underground, not regulation.

Can I have some data to update my potentially incorrect knowledge?

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Excellent. I await an example of overt demand for bloodshed over established methods.

All the cries and protests against the banning fox hunting? The middle classes were going apeshit at the time.

Ok, so you have an example of something you don't want, but no counter solution and no evidence to the efficacy, cost, and efficiency of dispatch.

You're constructive alright.

Less humane? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Hunting is not a humane form of pest control. Never has been. Never will be. You don't need me to tell you that though.

I take umbrage with that declaration, as it is unsupported and laden with emotional baggage.

The specifics of the method of euthanasia employed, I can't comment on Moros. Generally its a pain in the arse to put down, say a beached whale for example by minimising its suffering, usually by the time the decision is made the poor thing is steadily crushing itself under its own weight and already in agony from severe dehydration.

That's my entire point!

You don't know the alternatives.

So how can you advocate what you're advocating?

You're using emotional claims, declarations that are unsupported,
Regardless of the whatever methods are available to use to minimise the cetacean's suffering, that's not what the fucking whalers are doing as we speak, obviously.