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[elunico13]

If it's the biblical god we're considering, how about some of the stuff from the mythology? I don't mean water into wine kind of parlour tricks, anyone with a half decent home brew kit can do that. I'm talking about making completely new animals from dirt (then ideally making them talk); taking a bone from my body and turning it into a woman; parting an ocean - a small one will do - so as to leave a causeway between the two walls of water wide enough for a small army to walk on. Heck, what about creating a brand new universe?

That's a classic. Why would you demand God to make another universe when your living in the one he already made? He already performed the things you mentioned. You think just because you're born he has to do it for you again? If you reject him why should he do anything for you? The least you could do is thank him for every breath you take. You have a double standard. You don't question what you're told by secular scientists and interpret all scientific evidence with your presuppositions which you can't account for.

Is this how you determine the existence of beauty, Barometric pressure,
quasars, gravitational attraction, elasticity, radioactivity, natural laws, names, grammar, numbers, etc...?

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Saying that God is required to make sense of the laws of logic isn't "correcting" me, as I can correct you right back by "saying" that the laws of logic require thwarb. It's just bare assertion. Not correction. Given your lack of understanding of the two arguments given, it's absurd for you to lecture anyone on logic.

I gave a logical reason in the post why thwarb couldn't exist it wasn't an arbitrary assertion like you claim. read it again.

I say, "the sun's light is generated by my making it so." According to your "logic" (snicker), I've demonstrated this to be so. All hail apophenia, who makes the sun shine! Do you believe that I make the sun shine? Then why should I believe you when you "say" that God is responsible for logic? There are more possible reasons for logic than your God and my notions; thinking that disproof of the latter is proof of the former is misapplication of the law of the excluded middle. You knowing a set of explanations is not proof that, once you've eliminated all but one explanation in the set, the one left is the right explanation; it's possible that all explanations in the set are false. Just "saying" that your explanation is true demonstrates nothing. (And claiming that God is right because the bible says so is even more laughable. I have holy books, too, you know. That it says so in a holy book is proof of nothing.)

I won't say I'm surprised that you don't have any actual evidence that God is the foundation of logic. Judeo-Christians are as allergic to evidence as they are to sound logic.

Your holy books are illogical and can't account for morality or the uniformity in nature. You have multiple "gods" or idols. Which rules from which "god are the correct ones or true ones? With multiple gods you would have contradicting laws of logic and that can't work. You would have multiple and contradictory morals. Muslims, hindus, bhuddists all have contradictory worldviews that make it impossible to have knowledge. Why should we expect the universe to be understandable if you have multiple "gods" manipulating and contradicting each other? We can talk more about this if you persist.

Moreover, this whole "worldview" business is stupid. Atheism isn't a world view.

all atheists have their own person set of beliefs (worldview) Again your not reading the thread nor educating yourself before posting.

But let me correct you. Kali is responsible for logic, and it is flawed just like your belief in your God is. All is Maya. Only Kali is real. I'm glad I had the opportunity to set you straight about your illusory God and your illusory beliefs. Not that you'll accept such correction. Deluded people tend to continue in the belief in their delusions even if it is pointed out to them.

Give a rational justification for believing this instead of getting emotional about it. RELAX its just a forum.

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Try not to give the same refuted answers the other atheists gave on this thread. They're actually starting to give up.

Trying to get anything that isn't a bible verse through your thick skull is exhausting. Of course we're giving up.

Giving up because of the discovery of non fossilized dinosaur bones???