RE: Origin of Articles
June 24, 2012 at 7:11 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2012 at 7:37 pm by elunico13.)
(June 22, 2012 at 12:22 am)apophenia Wrote: Oh, and to save a reply, please provide me a reference to the passage in your bible where God explicitly said that logic is uncreated, as you claim above.
If you want to know why laws of logic are the nature of God (universal, immaterial, invariant) then your going to have to find my answer to that in the thread. I can't take you seriously when you post comments and questions which show you haven't read the thread. I can't take you serious when you post a pink poster of Jesus claiming contradictions. If you have questions about certain verses than include them in your post. I can't take you serious when you use sources like Wikipedia to support your arguments. This forum is notorious for that.
Here is the answer to your question. The link below provides the whole chapter. Read it at least once to put it into context.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm...2&t=NKJV#1
Proverbs 8:22-23 (Wisdom & Knowledge)
"The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old. I have been established from everlasting, From the beginning, before there was ever an earth.
It's important to note that Genesis 1:1 states God created the heavens and the Earth. So these verses here are before creation.
(June 22, 2012 at 1:43 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Speaking of miracles, a God who performs miracles means the universe is not consistent, therefore presuppositionalists cannot contend a miracle-working God explains consistency and the usefulness of inference.
That's like saying a total lunar eclipse makes it impossible to predict the sunset or sunrise.
If water turns into wine does that make it impossible for astronomers to study the night sky? Of course not.
If God halts the Earth's rotation for a day he can do it because he sustains the universe and established the laws of uniformity. And as a result of such a miracle scientists can detect a the "time change" by using the law of uniformity sustained by God to calculate it. (Only if we had an accurate earth-based clock with which to compare our astronomical observations going back to the time of Joshua.)
Joshua 10:13
The bible never says the trinity is 3 separate beings. 1 John 5:7 KJV
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
James Holmes acted consistent with what evolution teaches. He evolved from an animal, and when he murdered those people, He acted like one. You can't say he's wrong since evolution made him that way.
