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[ARCHIVED] - Evidence Vs Faith
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith
(September 4, 2009 at 7:11 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: How does my belief in what I know need to be the same as my belief in what I can't know? The conjunction is fallacious.

Why is it any more rational to believe in something without evidence when there can't be evidence, than to believe in something without evidence when there can be evidence? The fact that you can't know it, how does that make it any different in terms of rationality? Knowable or unknowable - why believe...without evidence? How can you ever do that rationally?

Quote:You're changing the subject. Evidence is important for belief in things we know. As we aren't talking about things we can know, then we cannot apply the same condition to something dissimilar.
See above.

fr0d0 Wrote:From post 9 in this thread:
EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: As I've said, I don't care whether there can be evidence or not

I indeed don't care whether there can be evidence or not, because whether evidence is possible or not is irrelevant to the fact that it's irrational to believe without in either case. I am speaking of possibility in that quote, not necessity. I'm saying that I don't care whether evidence is possible or not, because that's irrelevant to the fact that it's irrational to believe without it.

I am not saying that evidence isn't necessary to be rational.

EvF



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[ARCHIVED] - Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 2, 2009 at 9:57 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 3, 2009 at 7:53 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2009 at 8:22 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 3, 2009 at 8:41 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2009 at 8:54 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 12:15 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 4, 2009 at 4:15 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 4, 2009 at 4:30 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 5:32 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 4, 2009 at 5:47 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 6:03 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 4, 2009 at 7:11 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 9:40 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 5, 2009 at 4:27 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 5, 2009 at 8:14 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 5, 2009 at 4:55 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 6, 2009 at 7:41 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 10:16 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 6, 2009 at 10:22 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 10:26 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 6, 2009 at 10:45 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 11:22 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 6, 2009 at 1:48 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 2:25 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 7, 2009 at 9:02 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 2:55 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 8, 2009 at 6:35 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 4:55 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 8, 2009 at 8:37 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 3:52 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 9, 2009 at 9:35 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 9:02 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 9:08 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 2:30 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 9:39 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 9:47 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 9:49 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 10:08 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 10:23 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 10:41 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 10:52 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 10:57 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 10:59 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 11:14 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2009 at 8:59 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 11, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 11, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 11, 2009 at 4:11 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 12, 2009 at 2:27 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 12, 2009 at 6:37 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 12, 2009 at 11:28 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 12, 2009 at 11:30 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 12, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 12, 2009 at 8:29 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 13, 2009 at 4:58 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 13, 2009 at 8:03 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 13, 2009 at 8:50 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 13, 2009 at 10:05 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 13, 2009 at 2:11 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 13, 2009 at 7:43 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 14, 2009 at 4:05 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 14, 2009 at 5:00 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 14, 2009 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 14, 2009 at 10:27 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 15, 2009 at 1:56 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 15, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 15, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 18, 2009 at 10:00 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2009 at 6:19 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 18, 2009 at 8:43 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 19, 2009 at 7:18 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 19, 2009 at 8:52 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 19, 2009 at 12:40 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 20, 2009 at 7:26 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 20, 2009 at 5:52 pm

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