(September 5, 2009 at 7:07 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(September 5, 2009 at 7:01 am)Trojan Wrote: Is defined as the lack of belief in and/or belief against the existence of a supreme being(s), god(s), and/or deity(s).
Well for one thing I don't accept that it is necessary to believe there is no god to be an atheist.
(September 5, 2009 at 7:01 am)Trojan Wrote: Is this a religious view? Perhaps, considering it pertains to the concept of a deity, which is largely and commonly religious; but a religion itself? I personally think not, although there are many who disagree.
Yes, I think if someone does actively believe that (there is no god) then it is effectively a religious position because there is no more evidence there is no god than there is one.
Kyu
Both those points are bullshit Kyu.
1. The definition of atheist is a lack of a belief in god or other supernatural beings.
2. Rejecting a claim on the basis of it being unconvincing or, in the case of religion, completely absent of evidence is NOT RELIGIOUS! It is simply the rejection of an idea. I'm not religious in terms of my atheism any more than i am rejecting homeopathy, my anti-homeopathy isn't a religion and neither is my rejection of the 'MAGIC MAN' concept.
I love the Robin Ince quote: "On one hand is the theory of evolution and on the other hand is the theory of TA-DA!!!!!!" - The same thing applies here.
Religion and the god concept are products of primitive, superstitious, uneducated minds; the best an ancient society could come up with. I think even the idea of an intelligence that exists outside of matter or states of energy is so fundamentally retarded that it deserves no less than complete ridicule, i can accept that such a society would presume it but to believe it today is idiocy. It is nothing more than an assumption asserted as fact (or more distinctly an assumption that defies the summation of knowledge asserted as fact) and anybody that asserts and assumption is a fucking idiot. It's perfectly fine to acknowledge an assumption or even to hope that it is true but to declare it the truth without evidence is STUPID. Evidence obtained through the scientific method is the only reliable way to distinguish between potential assumptions and without it each assumption is equally likely, equally true, equally retarded and equally .
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