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Atheism
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RE: Atheism
(September 5, 2009 at 12:39 pm)theVOID Wrote:
(September 5, 2009 at 11:53 am)Arcanus Wrote: PERSON A: "I do not believe God exists."
PERSON B: "I believe God does not exist."

Both persons are atheists; the former is usually said to be agnostic ('weak') atheist, the latter is usually said to be gnostic ('strong') atheist.

Bullshit, the statement is the same, you're using semantics of belief when the word gnostic/agnostic should be applied.

If someone does not believe in god or believes there is no god they have made exactly the same statement and the degree to which they believe there is no god is an entirely different issue.

I'm not so sure..

Statement A is a not a belief or proposition so it does not require any evidence whereas statement B is a definite belief and as such is open to the same demands as 'a belief in God'.
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Atheism - by Trojan - September 5, 2009 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 5, 2009 at 7:07 am
RE: Atheism - by Trojan - September 5, 2009 at 7:19 am
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 5, 2009 at 9:40 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 5, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: Atheism - by Tiberius - September 5, 2009 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 5, 2009 at 10:26 am
RE: Atheism - by Ryft - September 5, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 5, 2009 at 12:39 pm
RE: Atheism - by Darwinian - September 5, 2009 at 12:46 pm
RE: Atheism - by Ryft - September 5, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 5, 2009 at 1:00 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 5, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 5, 2009 at 2:17 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 5, 2009 at 1:19 pm
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 5, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: Atheism - by Samson - September 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 5, 2009 at 2:53 pm
RE: Atheism - by Tiberius - September 5, 2009 at 3:15 pm
RE: Atheism - by Samson - September 5, 2009 at 3:22 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm
RE: Atheism - by Godlesspanther - September 5, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RE: Atheism - by Minimalist - September 5, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 5, 2009 at 10:37 pm
RE: Atheism - by padraic - September 6, 2009 at 3:21 am
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 6, 2009 at 4:18 am
RE: Atheism - by padraic - September 6, 2009 at 5:18 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 9:49 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 9:56 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 12:45 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 1:02 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 1:10 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 7, 2009 at 8:02 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 7, 2009 at 8:26 am
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 6, 2009 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 5:06 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 6, 2009 at 5:24 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 5:37 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 6:23 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 6, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 7:47 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 6, 2009 at 8:02 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 9:13 pm
RE: Atheism - by padraic - September 6, 2009 at 9:54 pm
RE: Atheism - by Tiberius - September 6, 2009 at 10:18 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 11:37 pm
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 7, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 7, 2009 at 9:01 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 7, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 7, 2009 at 6:36 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 7, 2009 at 7:14 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 7, 2009 at 8:35 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 2:59 am
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 7, 2009 at 7:28 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 7, 2009 at 8:03 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 8, 2009 at 8:04 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 8:46 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 4:43 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 8, 2009 at 4:45 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 8, 2009 at 5:54 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 8, 2009 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 7:01 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 9, 2009 at 6:52 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 8:10 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 9, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 9, 2009 at 1:58 pm
RE: Atheism - by theblindferrengi - September 9, 2009 at 2:40 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 3:02 pm
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 9, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - September 9, 2009 at 2:45 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:47 pm
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 9, 2009 at 2:50 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:55 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 2:57 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: Atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - September 9, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm
RE: Atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - September 9, 2009 at 3:31 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 3:44 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 9, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheism - by theblindferrengi - September 9, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 9, 2009 at 5:25 pm
RE: Atheism - by theblindferrengi - September 9, 2009 at 6:50 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 5:50 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 9, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 7:12 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 9, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 8:03 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 3:27 pm
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 9, 2009 at 8:49 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 4:13 am

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