RE: Can Creator create morality from nothing?
July 12, 2012 at 2:51 pm
(This post was last modified: July 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm by Mystic.)
(July 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: I'll bite.
(July 12, 2012 at 2:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (1) If God exists, he cannot create morality when morality didn't exist.Double negative. Rephrased:
(1) If God exists, he can create morality when morality did exist.
This is a nonsensical premise -- how can god create what is already there?
Ok I will rephrase the statement:
God cannot create morality.
Quote:Faulty premise -- you have not established that evolutionary derived 'morals' are dependent on God creating morality.
For all you know, codified behaviors are part of an evolution of a social species, which would make said "morality" an emergent property of said social specie evolution.
If God can create evolution, and evolution can create morality, it follows that God can create morality. But premise 1 says that is not true.
Quote:(July 12, 2012 at 2:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (3) Therefore if morality were to be real/objective/non-delusion, it would be eternal.How is "morality" a coherent object that persists? How is it inherited and yet some form of "eternal" state?
There is a mystic explanation to this but briefly we are linked to God.
Quote:Also, how does this premise operate while this one cannot:
(3) If morality is a temporary object formed within the mind of an individual, then morality is around as long as that individual is around.
Not if an eternal individual exists that is the source of morality to others.
Quote:I'm not gonna even poke this one...
Good that's another discussion...this proof relies on assumption that objective morality is true.
