(July 12, 2012 at 3:58 pm)Chuck Wrote: I think you are dancing around in the superstructure without establishing the foundation. The fact that Plato described it doesn't mean it it not airy speculation based on no firm supporting structure.
What is objective morality? An morality that not only is agreed upon, but would be agreed upon (in some way) in any circumstances?
Objective morality existing is an assumption the argument makes. I will make a thread about what I think objective morality is and how we can know objective morals, but as far as this thread goes, I'm not going to get into discussion of objective morality.
Most people cannot explain objective morality, but I believe are justified in believing in it.
That premise can be disputed and if it is, then the argument would not be conclusive.
I've said it before - all arguments towards God make use of properly basic faith/intuitive knowledge.
As far as this argument, yes, you need faith in morality being real and objective and not all subjective or a delusion.
Without that faith the argument fails.
