The Stage is Yours.

[Rayaan]

moral. I don't see those other things as evil.

So then what are some of the moral evils that you find in Allah since you said that "Allah has the ability to do evil"?

No indeed. I think the quote is that allah is unjustifiably angry - taken from the 99 attribues.

What quote are you talking about? Your own quote?
Also, again, you still haven't explained to me nor specified which of his attributes imply that he is "unjustifiably" angry.

Indirectly as in... isn't evil himself. As in... every positive creation brings about an opposing force.

So, you're saying that when God created something good/positive, an opposing (evil) force automatically came into existence? That God didn't even intend that to happen?

Light being the positive force, dark is the neutral state that it reverts to.

But light is a physical concept and it's only "positive" in a physical sense.

And since you tried to make an analogy there:
If darkness is a neutral state which light reverts to, then would you say that evil is also the "neutral state" which the good reverts to, or is it the opposite state?

Satan naturally exists as a counter to good. Evil from good. Etc.

"Satan naturally exists" <- So does that mean that Satan wasn't created? He naturally existed like that for eternity? And if the answer is no, then who created Him?

As you asked above, killing and destruction are not necessarily evil. Ultimate justice is only possible via complete knowledge, and here we credit God with that ability.

I can't say that I disagree with that.

Yeah I'm on the fence about Islam addressing the same God. I think Mohammed's revelation was too far from what Judaism and Christianity profess.

Any particular reason why you think that?

Undeniable that Islam is based upon Xtianity, yes.

You just said that Islam is too far from what Judaism and Christianity profess, but now, you said that Islam is undeniably based upon Christianity. Yeah, contradiction.

The trinity stuff seems irrelevant to me. It's what can be clearly derived from the text as it stands.

And there is a debate as to whether or not the Trinity related verses in the Bible were the original words of God considering how much textual alterations there are in the Bible.

There was even a Christian member in this forum, Alter2Ego, who posted why the concept of Trinity may not be a Christian teaching.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-12994.html

I'll look that up later for you and post back.

Take your time, but you can say give up if you can't do it. Then I won't instigate you for that.

Yes I think this has a corresponding biblical text.

And what is your point?

Jesus was angry, but he wasn't sinful in that anger, as anger can be good. The answer to this will be included in the one for the question above.

So, when Jesus (or the Christian God) gets angry, the anger is good and not sinful. But, when Allah gets angry, He is "unjustifiably angry" <- (in your own words).

= Double Standards

And how is that bipolar?

By your statement that God can be "one and three" at the same time. And that Jesus was 100% man and 100% God at the same time.

I'm going to tell you something very confidential right now, so I hope you're wearing your cast iron underpants.

*wears cast iron underpants*

I'm not perfect. Wow I feel better for getting that off my chest!

Damn it!
I thought you were perfect, fr0d0. I really did.