RE: Is Christianity Illogical?
July 14, 2012 at 5:05 pm
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2012 at 5:21 pm by spockrates.)
(July 14, 2012 at 4:56 pm)Gambit Wrote: If there is good evidence for the existence of God, it has not been presented. In my view it is illogical to accept something as true with such limited, reliable or testable data to go on. Religions cannot even agree amongst themselves on the definition of God, let alone what qualifies as proof of such an entity's existence.
What logical steps would you suggest that we take, in order to determine that the claims made by Christianity are true? Christianity itself is not illogical, as we can use logical steps to examine what it is. however, the claims that Christians make are illogical, quite simply, because they do not follow a logical path. An example of this is as follows:
The bible is the infallible word of God
Therefore God exists.
In this example the person arguing for the existence of the Christian God jumps right from a preposition to a conclusion. It's a simple example, but it shows one of the fundamental logical flaws in the Christian argument. In between the preposition and conclusion, once must take the logical step of proving that the preposition is true; otherwise it is just an unsupported opinion. To date, no one has been able to fill in the black space.
Yes, I quite agree that is illogical, and that Christians who believe such are being illogical. But does such irrational thinking on the part of some prove that all Christians think the same?
(July 14, 2012 at 5:05 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Here ya go:
(July 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm)spockrates Wrote: If so, please explain why. If not, please explain why a logical person should still not become, or remain Christian.
If I wanted to keep any integrity:
Title: Can Christianity be Logical?
If so, please explain why. If not, please explain why a logical person should still remain Christian.
As asked by you. Enjoy.
Good talking with you!
(July 14, 2012 at 5:04 pm)Tobie Wrote:(July 14, 2012 at 4:59 pm)spockrates Wrote: Can one truly be enslaved by one with whom he completely agrees? Consider a man who marries the perfect woman for him: Would you say his relationship enslaves him? If so, why?
The biblical god is in no way like a perfect woman. A perfect woman wouldn't stop you doing stuff you wouldn't enjoy for some weird sense of gratification, wouldn't make you sit/kneel for ages in her house whilst she lectures you, and wouldn't commit genocide or tell others to.
How do you know that the God you describe is the God who is, rather than a misconception?
Tobie:
Regarding God getting gratification from one's actions, isn't this what you and I consider normal, instead of weird? Let's say you had a friend who was engaging in some dangerous, or destructive behavior. Would it be weird to advise her to change her behavior? Would it be wrong to feel glad if she took your advice to heart and did as you suggested?
"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."
--Spock
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