RE: Is Christianity Illogical?
July 14, 2012 at 8:06 pm
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2012 at 8:11 pm by spockrates.)
(July 14, 2012 at 7:39 pm)aleialoura Wrote:(July 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm)spockrates Wrote: Faith in science works, hence faith works! Right back at 'ya!
Before scientific method/exploration/discovery began on this planet, there was not even a need for the word "faith". It didn't even exist before 1200 AD, and then it just meant "trust".
About which context of the word are you speaking? It doesn't matter, because the word faith doesn't belong in science at all. Science, above all, doubts.
If you knew anything at all about how science works, you'd know that the point of science is to disprove things.
I suppose, then that the scientific method has something in common with the Socratic method. Yet, don't both the scientist and the philosopher trust (or put faith in) their methods? If faith is a kind of trust, then are not science and philosophy kinds of faith? The difference between the scientist and the philosopher and the Christian is not in any lack of trust, but in the objects in which they trust, I think. What do you think?
(July 14, 2012 at 7:58 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:(July 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm)spockrates Wrote: If so, please explain why. If not, please explain why a logical person should still not become, or remain Christian.
1) Christianity is dependent on an earthly Jesus
2) To date that still can't be proven
3) Therefore it's illogical to believe modern-day Christian doctrine... From ANY of the 30 000+ denominations.
Alternatively, you could explore the possibility that your interpretation is wrong and you don't know the true message of the Gospels or even their intentions.
spockrates Wrote:The task for us is simple: Prove any prediction an author of the Old Testament made false, and you've proven him a fraud. Should we take Moses up on his challenge?
I would absolutely love to. Question though, what will happen after I show you trivial events in Jesus' life are almost word for word from the OT? Let me clarify here: trivial events NOT prophecy.
I suppose such would suggest at least two possibilities:
1. The events of Jesus life were deliberately fabricated
2. The events of Jesus life were remarkably predicted
How would we determine which of the two are true?
"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."
--Spock
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