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Is Christianity Illogical?
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RE: Is Christianity Illogical?
spockrates Wrote:I suppose such would suggest at least two possibilities:

1. The events of Jesus life were deliberately fabricated
2. The events of Jesus life were remarkably predicted

How would we determine which of the two are true?

This is why I clarified I wasn't talking about prophecy, to eliminate #2. I can show you where in the OT the author of Mark got the material for the part about Jesus and the fig tree. This isn't any sort of prediction but a trivial bit of 'history'.

Therefore, answering your question, to me it's almost undeniable that it's a fabrication.

spockrates Wrote:Reguarding the first alternative, I'd like to ask how you, or I believe anything about the life and death of any historical figure. Julius Caesar, for example--is there anything historians tell us about him that it is reasonable to believe? Or is all ancient history unbelievable?

Julius Caesar left an entire empire behind. There's material things like coins and statues that can be shown are related to him.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 4:35 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Tobie - July 14, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by FemmeRealism - July 16, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Tobie - July 14, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Erinome - July 14, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 5:05 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 5:05 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Annik - July 14, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 5:47 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Annik - July 14, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Annik - July 14, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - July 14, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Hovik - July 14, 2012 at 6:08 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 6:22 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Hovik - July 14, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Hovik - July 14, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by MysticKnight - July 14, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Annik - July 14, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Erinome - July 14, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 5:40 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Annik - July 14, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Erinome - July 14, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Erinome - July 14, 2012 at 5:57 pm
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RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by MysticKnight - July 14, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by LastPoet - July 14, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Erinome - July 14, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - July 14, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by jonb - July 14, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Minimalist - July 14, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by MysticKnight - July 14, 2012 at 7:12 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by jonb - July 14, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by KnockEmOuttt - July 14, 2012 at 8:41 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by jonb - July 14, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by jonb - July 14, 2012 at 9:18 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by jonb - July 14, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by downbeatplumb - July 15, 2012 at 7:09 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - July 14, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by padraic - July 14, 2012 at 7:26 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by FallentoReason - July 14, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 14, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by KnockEmOuttt - July 14, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 14, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by FallentoReason - July 14, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by FallentoReason - July 14, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Erinome - July 14, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by FallentoReason - July 14, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 9:31 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by FallentoReason - July 14, 2012 at 9:04 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 8:30 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by downbeatplumb - July 15, 2012 at 9:50 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by downbeatplumb - July 15, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by CliveStaples - July 15, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 2:23 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by jonb - July 14, 2012 at 9:28 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 14, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by FallentoReason - July 15, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by FallentoReason - July 15, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Erinome - July 15, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Annik - July 15, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by downbeatplumb - July 15, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by MysticKnight - July 15, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by spockrates - July 15, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 15, 2012 at 3:11 pm
RE: Is Christianity Illogical? - by Angrboda - July 16, 2012 at 10:59 am

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