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Atheism
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RE: Atheism
I'm with fr0d0 on this one (not surprisingly given my agnostic stance). By most definitions of gods, they are all-powerful, operating outside the known universe. Therefore they are capable of affecting something in the universe without revealing themselves, or at the very least, making it appear that something is naturally caused.

Gods are able to manipulate the evidence they leave. The entire universe could have been created by a God only a few weeks ago, with all the evidence left there pointing to a 13.7 billion year creation. It leaves God as a trickster or at the very least with a sense of humour.

This is why when I say "there is no evidence for god", I mean "there is no reasoning for God". Given that a universe with a God and a universe without a God are indistinguishable, the only way of asserting a God exists is through reasoning, which in my opinion ultimately fails.
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Atheism - by Trojan - September 5, 2009 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 5, 2009 at 7:07 am
RE: Atheism - by Trojan - September 5, 2009 at 7:19 am
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 5, 2009 at 9:40 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 5, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: Atheism - by Tiberius - September 5, 2009 at 9:51 am
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 5, 2009 at 10:26 am
RE: Atheism - by Ryft - September 5, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 5, 2009 at 12:39 pm
RE: Atheism - by Darwinian - September 5, 2009 at 12:46 pm
RE: Atheism - by Ryft - September 5, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 5, 2009 at 1:00 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 5, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 5, 2009 at 2:17 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 5, 2009 at 1:19 pm
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 5, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: Atheism - by Samson - September 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 5, 2009 at 2:53 pm
RE: Atheism - by Tiberius - September 5, 2009 at 3:15 pm
RE: Atheism - by Samson - September 5, 2009 at 3:22 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm
RE: Atheism - by Godlesspanther - September 5, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RE: Atheism - by Minimalist - September 5, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 5, 2009 at 10:37 pm
RE: Atheism - by padraic - September 6, 2009 at 3:21 am
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 6, 2009 at 4:18 am
RE: Atheism - by padraic - September 6, 2009 at 5:18 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 9:49 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 9:56 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 12:45 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 1:02 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 1:10 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 6, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 7, 2009 at 8:02 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 7, 2009 at 8:26 am
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 6, 2009 at 4:56 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 5:06 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 6, 2009 at 5:24 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 5:37 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 6:23 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 6, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 7:47 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 6, 2009 at 8:02 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 9:13 pm
RE: Atheism - by padraic - September 6, 2009 at 9:54 pm
RE: Atheism - by Tiberius - September 6, 2009 at 10:18 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 6, 2009 at 11:37 pm
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 7, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 7, 2009 at 9:01 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 7, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 7, 2009 at 6:36 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 7, 2009 at 7:14 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 7, 2009 at 8:35 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 2:59 am
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 7, 2009 at 7:28 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 7, 2009 at 8:03 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 8, 2009 at 8:04 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 8:46 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 4:43 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 8, 2009 at 4:45 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 5:43 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 8, 2009 at 5:54 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 8, 2009 at 6:27 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 7:01 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 9, 2009 at 6:52 am
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 8:10 am
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 9, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 9, 2009 at 1:58 pm
RE: Atheism - by theblindferrengi - September 9, 2009 at 2:40 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 3:02 pm
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 9, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - September 9, 2009 at 2:45 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:47 pm
RE: Atheism - by Retorth - September 9, 2009 at 2:50 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:55 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 2:57 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: Atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - September 9, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 3:26 pm
RE: Atheism - by Rhizomorph13 - September 9, 2009 at 3:31 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 3:44 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 9, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Atheism - by theblindferrengi - September 9, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheism - by chatpilot - September 9, 2009 at 5:25 pm
RE: Atheism - by theblindferrengi - September 9, 2009 at 6:50 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 5:50 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 9, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 7:12 pm
RE: Atheism - by Sam - September 9, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: Atheism - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 8:03 pm
RE: Atheism - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 3:27 pm
RE: Atheism - by theVOID - September 9, 2009 at 8:49 pm
RE: Atheism - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 4:13 am

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