RE: Christians
September 6, 2009 at 11:23 pm
(This post was last modified: September 6, 2009 at 11:29 pm by ecolox.)
(September 6, 2009 at 1:00 pm)Retorth Wrote:Quote:They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
People will be given a reasonable chance to decide to be allegiant to God or not (these Israelites knowingly entered a covenant with no fine print - same goes for your other verses) - everyone will understand what's going to happen if they reject God. What will happen? You said death will happen - forcing people to choose life - with Biblical support - what does that mean in terms of eternity though?
I think what will happen is analogous to joining a nation [heaven] - or choosing to live among the perils of the wild, bandits and all [hell]. I'm guess[ing] that rebels will live together apart from God and His rules - instead of being actively punished/abused by God, His angels, or other such inhabitants of heaven (like believers themselves). The rebels will punish themselves through lawlessness and non-unified existence. They will be allowed to exist just like Satan, I'd guess.
bozo Wrote:...I would not want to spend an eternity with god and people like you!
I wouldn't force any such thing upon you, so no worries. I value you that much, at least!
Ace Wrote:...When you die you cease to exist. I'm happy with that.
So if I was offered heaven, I'd ask god to send me into oblivion. I couldn't possibly spend all eternity existing. Especially with some god like thing.
Personally I don't like the idea of an afterlife.
So could you enjoy committing suicide here on earth? If you're happy with ceasing to exist - what keeps you going on living? And then again in eternity, suicide (if it came to that)? I'm sorry to hear that, but you are your own keeper.
Here's a guy that wouldn't think God is so forceful after all, if he believed, Retorth - he'd say, "Death? Gladly!". What would you say to someone like him - who throws a bone your thoughts on choice? What your saying is that if someone asked you to jump off a cliff they wouldn't be expecting you to really choose at all - allegedly it's not really a choice if one option is 'better' than the other. Ace says death is better than life, now what?