(September 6, 2009 at 11:23 pm)ecolox Wrote:Ace Wrote:...When you die you cease to exist. I'm happy with that.
So if I was offered heaven, I'd ask god to send me into oblivion. I couldn't possibly spend all eternity existing. Especially with some god like thing.
Personally I don't like the idea of an afterlife.
So could you enjoy committing suicide here on earth? If you're happy with ceasing to exist - what keeps you going on living? And then again in eternity, suicide (if it came to that)? I'm sorry to hear that, but you are your own keeper.
Here's a guy that wouldn't think God is so forceful after all, if he believed, Retorth - he'd say, "Death? Gladly!". What would you say to someone like him - who throws a bone your thoughts on choice? What your saying is that if someone asked you to jump off a cliff they wouldn't be expecting you to really choose at all - allegedly it's not really a choice if one option is 'better' than the other. Ace says death is better than life, now what?
I didn't say I would enjoy committing suicide. What keeps me living is the fact that this existence is temporary and limited and so I plan to live it up while I can because there will be no other life than this one. Enjoying every moment as if it were my last. It's because I don't believe in another life beyond this one that I know I must take great care of this life. I didn't say death is better than life, I'm saying death is the end! Death is where we all vanish into non-existence. Gone forever. That's what happens to biolgocial lifeforms and guess what? We are biological lifeforms and so we will die and vanish. Tell me, Have you ever considered that your belief in an afterlife might be wrong? That you could actually end up no longer existing instead?
Just because there is no afterlife does not mean we go about killing ourselves. That happens to be the dumbest thing anyone has yet said. It's because there is no afterlife that we should take great care with it.
I don't like the idea of there being an afterlife. I'm glad there is an end.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.