RE: Atheism
September 7, 2009 at 6:36 pm
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2009 at 6:39 pm by chatpilot.)
"The answer is you couldn't accept any evidence. You also couldn't as Kyu has been asserting, base your disbelief in God on the grounds of lack of evidence. It is illogical."
Fr0d0 I totally disagree with that statement,in fact I find it an insult to the intelligence of any logical person.If you make an assertion that a god or the biblical God exist then the onus is upon you to provide evidence for the existence of said God.Biblical texts are not considered evidence and are completely unreliable as a record of his deeds and existence.The so called order in nature and the universe is also not a strong argument for evidence since the naturalistic world is a combination of order and chaos.
It is more illogical to argue for the existence of god or gods from faith than it is to do the same from reason and logic.Especially when your so called faith is based on ancient man in his infancy and his ignorance and superstitions based on fear and lack of knowledge.Knowing this I find it hard to be an agnostic when I know for sure that religion and gods in all their forms are a creation of man.
This is more like arguing from the god of the gaps theory,by stating that if something in science is not known or at the moment not explainable then god did it.Where is the logic in such an assertion?As we said in another forum in order to accept any assertions based on God you have to begin from an objective/religious/or christian worldview.And that worldview has to be accepted entirely on faith and not on logic.So from the beginning the theistic worldview is illogical and the more you argue to assert it the more illogical it becomes to the rest of us.Since your worldview is neither believed in nor accepted by most of us that are proclaiming atheism as our own worldview and philosophy.
Fr0d0 I totally disagree with that statement,in fact I find it an insult to the intelligence of any logical person.If you make an assertion that a god or the biblical God exist then the onus is upon you to provide evidence for the existence of said God.Biblical texts are not considered evidence and are completely unreliable as a record of his deeds and existence.The so called order in nature and the universe is also not a strong argument for evidence since the naturalistic world is a combination of order and chaos.
It is more illogical to argue for the existence of god or gods from faith than it is to do the same from reason and logic.Especially when your so called faith is based on ancient man in his infancy and his ignorance and superstitions based on fear and lack of knowledge.Knowing this I find it hard to be an agnostic when I know for sure that religion and gods in all their forms are a creation of man.
This is more like arguing from the god of the gaps theory,by stating that if something in science is not known or at the moment not explainable then god did it.Where is the logic in such an assertion?As we said in another forum in order to accept any assertions based on God you have to begin from an objective/religious/or christian worldview.And that worldview has to be accepted entirely on faith and not on logic.So from the beginning the theistic worldview is illogical and the more you argue to assert it the more illogical it becomes to the rest of us.Since your worldview is neither believed in nor accepted by most of us that are proclaiming atheism as our own worldview and philosophy.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition
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